3d Printing Crew: Tugboats up in this biatch

Boots

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So Bambu’s cloud service went down yesterday —

The printer sends all remotely initiated jobs (from the slicer or the app) to the cloud. Fine when it works, but if the cloud is down, you can’t start any prints remotely, even if you’re on the same network. You have to either use an SD card, or walk over and start the print after attempting to send the job to the printer (and failing) — I think it FTP’s it over to the SD card when you send it over, it just won’t start the print without the cloud.

The X1C does have a “LAN Mode”, but it’s crippled for some stupid reason — no app access and no camera access. Why tf is the cloud necessary for these functions? Also, I think it’s one or the other — i.e. it won’t failover to LAN Mode if the internet goes out or the cloud is down, so you have to choose or manually switch.

Also the P1P — afaik, doesn’t have a “LAN Mode” — so when the cloud was down, you can only use the SD card.

When the cloud came back up, people were reporting that their printer attempted to “catch up” and just started printing the queued up jobs on their own, which doesn’t seem good.

Wouldn’t surprise me if they started charging a subscription for cloud access. The replacement parts are surprisingly cheap ($15 for an entire hardened steel hotend, $35 for the entire printhead setup, etc..) they have to make it up somewhere.

That's interesting. Sounds like they are doing the usual tech company thing of creating a customer profile and selling it to advertisers. Could determine quite a bit about an individual by analyzing everything they 3d print. Anything in their TOS about them having a copy of your files? I'd imagine some corps would be pretty unhappy to know their design files are hitting another companies servers.
 
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CPTMULLET

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Wouldn’t surprise me if they started charging a subscription for cloud access. The replacement parts are surprisingly cheap ($15 for an entire hardened steel hotend, $35 for the entire printhead setup, etc..) they have to make it up somewhere.
Yeah I priced out a bunch of stuff on their site and all of the prices were weirdly reasonable, including the filament (someone claimed it's OEMed by esun).

Hot end is relatively primative in the modern era, but with all the tech they have in that thing I guess you can mitigate a lot of issues.
 

Ramathorn15

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jesus, did that take an entire roll of filament?

Also, what are the dimensions? Wondering If I can even print it on my prusa mini

It was just under half a roll. 450g I think. It barely fit on the print bed of my ender 3 V2. Can't remember the dimension and don't know what the prusa mini are.
 

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That's interesting. Sounds like they are doing the usual tech company thing of creating a customer profile and selling it to advertisers. Could determine quite a bit about an individual by analyzing everything they 3d print. Anything in their TOS about them having a copy of your files? I'd imagine some corps would be pretty unhappy to know their design files are hitting another companies servers.

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Yeah I priced out a bunch of stuff on their site and all of the prices were weirdly reasonable, including the filament (someone claimed it's OEMed by esun).

Hot end is relatively primative in the modern era, but with all the tech they have in that thing I guess you can mitigate a lot of issues.
spools are RFID and reusable, which is kinda nice

I wonder if it reads it every time it's used, or only when a new spool is put in -- if it's only every time you put a spool in, it'd be cool to use the flipper to clone the RFID tags and just tap it to set that slot's print settings for that type of filament.

not hard to configure "Generic PLA" for a slot in the AMS, but it'd be cool to test.
 
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spools are RFID and reusable, which is kinda nice

I wonder if it reads it every time it's used, or only when a new spool is put in -- if it's only every time you put a spool in, it'd be cool to use the flipper to clone the RFID tags and just tap it to set that slot's print settings for that type of filament.

not hard to configure "Generic PLA" for a slot in the AMS, but it'd be cool to test.
man it'd be extra cool if you could add your own RFID tags :hmm:
 

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man it'd be extra cool if you could add your own RFID tags :hmm:
whenever I open the spools that came with it, i'll read out the tags

dont know what i'll do with that info...but :rofl:

it'd be pretty sick to have your own tags and it'll set that slot for whatever settings you have setup for different types of filament
 

Tenny

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Well fuck, that took longer than expected. I never work with imported models (screwdriver) so it was far more difficult than expected.

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A few compromises though.
  • LTT Logo (see above) where you can see the holes for the magnet. Could be solved with a thin layer of plastic..
  • Bits are not offset. I didn't want to go through the hassle of figuring out which bits would fit with each other as I'd have to model nearly every one.
  • actual bits are recessed into the holes a bit... I could have lowered the plastic amount but at a few tests (with not the bits) I felt that looked weird af or it didn't "cradle" the screwdriver as much as I "think" it needs.

Screwdriver arrives Tuesday, then we'll really see how accurately the person modeled it. :rofl:
 

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For whatever reason, it seems when I need to use supports I end up doing something incorrectly and end up with something that I can't possibly remove the supports from :/
 

TheGreat8

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like inside the print or they're just too stuck on?
Like some parts are completely surrounded by supports. Say there are 2 balls, vertically stacked. the bottom would need supports and then the top would need supports that cover the top of the ball. Kinda, idk that's a shit way of explaining it. I'm gonna reprint the astronaut cup and then I'll post a pic and I can show you guys the shit I've "printed" lol

but yes, they do seem too stuck on as well.
 

CPTMULLET

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Like some parts are completely surrounded by supports. Say there are 2 balls, vertically stacked. the bottom would need supports and then the top would need supports that cover the top of the ball. Kinda, idk that's a shit way of explaining it. I'm gonna reprint the astronaut cup and then I'll post a pic and I can show you guys the shit I've "printed" lol

but yes, they do seem too stuck on as well.
to go back to an old OT trope, post pics or GTFO :mamoru:
 
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Boots

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Like some parts are completely surrounded by supports. Say there are 2 balls, vertically stacked. the bottom would need supports and then the top would need supports that cover the top of the ball. Kinda, idk that's a shit way of explaining it. I'm gonna reprint the astronaut cup and then I'll post a pic and I can show you guys the shit I've "printed" lol

but yes, they do seem too stuck on as well.

Reorient the part so the two balls are horizontal instead of vertical. A lot of times, supports can be improved simply by readjusting your model on the build plate.
 
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TheRider

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Friends saw the octopus so now I've had to print more, this one is TTYT3D Silk Shiny Fast Color Gradient Change Rainbow Filament with 3 walls and lightning infill (3% - but don't think that means anything) works fine. I might go to 4 walls next time, but with these settings came down to about 34 hours and about 335 grams of material.

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CPTMULLET

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btw in the voron sourcing guide they also have the ancillary shit you might need listed. IIRC the ldo rails are greased and all the wires are terminated so this might not be that important
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MastaCow

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btw in the voron sourcing guide they also have the ancillary shit you might need listed. IIRC the ldo rails are greased and all the wires are terminated so this might not be that important
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Oh, nice. I have a lot of that stuff already. Just need the grease and whatever that loctite compound is. thanks!
 

CPTMULLET

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Oh, nice. I have a lot of that stuff already. Just need the grease and whatever that loctite compound is. thanks!
btw most vendors now sell a syringe of grease for like $8, you absolutely will never use even half a tube on a dozen vorons, and iirc that's yellow loctite, most people just use blue, I think the LDO kit may even have that now (they've changed since I bought my v0.1 kit)

if you have any questions during the build there's a super active community in the discord, you can post in the help channel or create a ticket if you only get smoothbrain answers
 
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TwiggSS

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I've read about the Noc fans but they tend to flow less air to be more quiet right? Not sure I want to take a chance of burning up the board. Mine made a little noise this morning when I fired it up but went away after a min or so. Maybe I just won't turn if off for the next two weeks. :rolleyes:

my printers sit idle 24/7, so maybe i'll have better luck -- at least until fans are stocked

but i also ordered a Noctua 40mm 5v fan just in case.
Well keeping it on constantly kept it alive till early this morning. Was awoken to the sweet song of a dying fan. :(
 

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