$400-500 budget for processor, mobo, ram, and vid card

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  1. RacerJ

    RacerJ New Member

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    currently i'm running (dont laugh):
    AMD Athlon 2200 XP
    ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
    1.2gb ram
    dont remember what kind of mobo
    creative soundblaster x-fi platinum
    250gb and 80gb IDE hdd's (i'll probably get 2 SATA hard drives, but dont factor that into the cost right now)
    DVD-ROM drive
    500W (or 550W, dont remember) power supply

    clearly anything i buy will be an upgrade. i've been out of the computer hardware loop for so long that i dont know what's good and what isnt anymore. my only real specification is at least 2 gb of ram. I do engineering stuff (programming, schematics, etc), listen to music, mix audio tracks (via adobe audition and similar), and occasionally play games. I just installed TF2 for the free weekend and my framerate is unbearably low
     
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    CPU: E8400 - $189.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

    Mobo: Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L - $99.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128347

    RAM: Corsair 4GB (2 x 2GB) - $86.50 (-$20 rebate)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184

    Vid Card: EVGA 8800 GT 512MB - $159.99 (-$20 rebate)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130359

    Total: $536.47, below $500 after rebates


    alternatives:
    Mobo: Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L - $89.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128337
    ** P35 chipset is old, the P43 above is new, just recently released.

    RAM: Corsair XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) - $58.00 (-$25 rebate)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145034
     
  3. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    The first configuration there would be a phenomenal upgrade from what he's running now.
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    yea, if he swapped that gigabyte for a decent mobo it would be pretty good. I'd also look at a diff video card brand. eVGA is pretty bottom-of-the-barrel. XFX is my recommendation. BFGTech is also excellent.
     
  5. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Oh would you cut it out already.

    Gigabyte and eVga are consistently highly rated products by pretty much everyone.
    I don't argue against XFX, but it's crazy to say eVga is junk.
     
  6. Skankin'

    Skankin' We are Ginger. We do not forgive. We do not forget

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    eVga, BFG, XFX are all decent brands. My ATi card was crap, I have had 3 eVGA cards since then, but I'm looking to buy either a BFG or XFX next. IDK, one eVGA card fan crapped out after a year, and my current evga card has a faulty temp. probe after a year. I have had a 7600GT, 8600GT, and 8600GTS.
     
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    as i said, its not horrible, but evga is on the low-end of the video card manus.

    xfx is mid/high-end, and bfg is high end.
     
  8. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    But all 3 brands have excellent cards. The only thing that scares me about eVga is that I see
    where they've started putting a 1 year warranty on the lower/mid range cards
    like the 8800 that Doom linked.

    I wouldn't touch one of those.
     
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    so something like this?

    XFX 8800 GT
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150252

    and what would you suggest as an alternative to the gigabyte mobo?
     
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    I based the EVGA decision because of cost and the dual slot cooler design.

    Two of XFX's 8800GTs has the shitty single slot cooler design, 1 has the Zalman cooler which has lots of complaints (loud as fuck, no ramsinks).

    As for BFG's 8800GTs, the one with the improved cooler is $189.99. The others also have the shitty single slot cooler design.

    never did really notice the warranty.

    I did change my mind though.

    RacerJ,.... if you don't mind going over a few bucks over budget,.. I recommend this than any EVGA, XFX or BFG.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127329
    it is factory overclocked to 660MHz, better cooler design, and comes with a free game.
     
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  11. Skankin'

    Skankin' We are Ginger. We do not forgive. We do not forget

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    Why not just step up to a 9800GTX for $20 more?
     
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    Intel brand P43/P45/G45 boards are still making their way to Dell and other OEM manufacturers. :p
     
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    that will make him $50+ over budget + shipping.
    I'd do it, but it's not my budget :dunno:
     
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    it's called "reference boards". they've been doing it for years. manus then copy em and have their own contractor build their own version of it.

    Thats why I laugh when some idiot recommends gigabyte or asus... They took the Intel Reference design, and gayed it up a bit. :nono:
     
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    so what kinda mobo should i be looking at?
     
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    if you want great stability and reliability and don't care quite so much about overclock (just a few hundred MHz) then Intel P35/Q35 are the best value, right now.

    if you want to overclock, then abit allows the most control for that.
     
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    but it's old.
    minus well get the new P43/P45/G45 chipsets.
    you get PCI-E gen 2, 1600fsb cpu support, new southbridge, and new features as well (e.g. the P43-DS3L has more USB and SATA ports than the P35 version).
    price difference isn't that huge.
     
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    newegg doesn't yet have an Intel P43/45 so I haven't recommended something they can't buy ;)
     
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    you'd probably recommend this one:
    DP43TF - expected retail price is $105.
    http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DP43TF/index.htm

    Other upcoming boards on Intel's lineup:

    DP45SG (ATX) - offers overclocking capabilities, DDR3 :greddy:, expected retail price is $170.
    http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DP45SG/index.htm

    DG43NB (ATX) - same as DP43TF but with only 2 RAM sockets and onboard video (Intel GMA X4500). expected retail price is $110.
    http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG43NB/index.htm

    DG45ID (micro-ATX) - for HTPCs, integrated HDMI, average price is $124
    http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG45ID/index.htm

    DG45FC (mini-ITX) - does not support Core 2 Quads, integrated HDMI, average price is $139
    http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG45FC/index.htm

    DX48BT2 - $289
    http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DX48BT2/index.htm
     
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    yes the DP43TF will most likely be my recommendation once it hits.

    DDR3 will eventually be useful (I'm thinking when Nehalem hits and we get integrated triple-channel ddr3 controllers on the cpu core :noes:) But for right now, DDR2 is still the best bang for the buck.
     
  22. Doc Brown

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    I love eVga, I just meant based on the fact that they only have a 1 year warranty, I wouldn't trust them.

    I mean, why start doing that now? My worry is that they've gone to some lower standard of manufacturing on some of their cards and they're worried about warranty costs.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Yep.
    Right now, DDR3 is a big waste of money, imo.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-speed-tests,1807.html
     
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    kind of research on it a bit:

    the card I picked is a TR.
    1 + 1 year warranty = initial 1 yr warranty, plus one more year free if you register the card within 30 days.

    still not bad imo if the card is cheap.
     
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