I'm leaning towards building them a p4 since my amd tbird runs hot as hell (60 C) and I need a supersonic fan to keep it cool. But my friend who keeps up with amd and oc's them told me the newer amds run cooler than the current p4s. Is that true? I would like the computer to be quiet as possible but also affordable and reliable. My parents dont do many hardcore processing stuff, so I'm open to anything. Any suggestions on mobo, cpu, case/ps supply, graphics (if not built in mobo), and ram. If the new mobo is mATX, then I can keep the current case and upgrade the powersupply. I'm usually against shopping at Fry's for some computer items, but they have a 2.66 ghz p4 and intel 845EPIL mobo for $199. Since it comes iwth an intel mobo instead of the usual ecs crap, I am considering this.