A+B workouts meaning the workouts that, once you've done workout A and B, youve worked your entire body - possibly also doing squats in both workouts. I know Rippetoe is great and Stronglifts 5x5 is supposedly a ripp-off of Rippetoe but it looks decent. I don't think madcow's 5x5 is quite the same as the rippetoe type A+B workouts. I read about this one on bodybuilding.com, which sounds interesting. Code: A Simple beginner's Routine You will do 3 work outs per week on non consecutive days. The first work out is your heavy work out. The second work out is your medium work out, use 10% less weight for your work sets. The final work out for the week is your lite work out, use 20% less weight. Do a lite warm up with 1/4 of your work sets weight. Do a medium warm up with 1/2 of your work sets weight. Do 2 work sets with the same weight. Choose a starting weight and start light. These are the seven exercises you will be starting with. Squats Bench Presses Bent-Over Rows Overhead Barbell Presses Stiff-Legged Deadlifts Barbell Curls Calf Raises You will be running this program on a five week cycle as follows: The first week do all 4 sets for 8 reps. The second week do all 4 sets for 9 reps. The third week do all 4 sets for 10 reps. The fourth week do all 4 sets for 11 reps. The fifth week do all 4 sets for 12 reps. If you got all of the required reps on the fifth week then increase the weight by 10% and repeat the cycle. If you didn't get all of the reps on the fifth week then repeat the cycle with the same weight. You shouldn't need more than one minute rest between the warm up sets and you shouldn't need more than one minute thirty seconds between the work sets. Do some cardio and abs work on non weight training days. i'm still trying to figure out which workout i should do that i can toss in some cardio type work (for heart rate, not for fat loss) and not have it scrw up everything. rippetoe, stronglifts, and that one i posted appeal to me since they're not time consuming and they dont involve alot of extra equipment that i dont have (pulldows, leg extensions, *.cable exercises) BUT, they have very very little cardio benefit and i could use that. flame suit on. you guys, sorry if i come across as a troll alot of the time. there's TOO MUCH info and routines all over the place. i would like to get back to basics but i dont have the equipment to do it.