Discussion in 'OT Technology' started by Fuijin, Aug 19, 2004.
explain plz. with personal experiences.
it's definitely better than IE for Mac, but Firefox gives it some competition.
Firefox > Safari > IE
If I was coming from IE, I'm sure I would have been impressed. But after using FF for the past year, nothing really compares. Safari is more in the league of Camino (also from mozilla). But both pale in comparison to FF.
Which browser is the least resource intensive? I only have 256 mb of ram
And I won't likely upgrade anytime soon, so don't suggest I pop in another stick of ram
Is there a way to dump IE for Mac and replace with FF. I currently use Safari.
Get rid of, as no longer on my computer(uninstall).
1) install firefox
2) import IE bookmarks into firefox
3) open your applications folder
4) delete internet explorer
it's not really necessary to delete it though. you might actually need it one day.
never know. i still run into the occsional web site that refuses to let me log in because they don't support my browser (technically, because they're browser sniffing code is out of date and doesn't recognize my browser).
thnx for the info..one question i had though, does safari respond faster than FF? faster loading, etc?
lots of websites (espn.com is the one i run into the most problems with, and peoplesoft management software) are built specifically to run in IE so i keep it around in case i need it.
the biggest advantage safari has over IE in my mind is that it is a natively cocoa (OSX) application where as IE for OSX is a carbon app.
One of the first things I did when I got my iBook was introduce IE to "Mr Trash".
If I site "requires" IE, it's not worth my time. End of story.
...which i'm sure makes perfect sense to a first-time mac user.
i agree. what do you mean?
"carbon" apps are applications that have been written with code that will run under both Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X, usually at a performance / functionality hit under X because it is backwards-compatible. Cocoa apps are said to be native to OS X because they are coded completely with Apple's Cocoa API (Application Programming Interface). However, they will not run under OS 9.
P.S. if it wasn't obvious from my previous post, the Cocoa API is a set of libraries, etc. that only run in OS X, and this is because they are the instructions that talk to the rudimentary layers of the operating system like the 2D and 3D engines etc., which themselves were completely different (or altogether nonexistant) under OS 9. Hence you can't write instructions for a 2D engine in OS X and expect them to work in OS 9. Carbon apps are coded with the set of instructions that is understood by both OSes.
sorry, he pretty much explained it though.. carbon apps are os9 programs that have been changed enough that they can run in osx without the classic environment, while cocoa apps are completely osx.
adobe's creative suite is an example of carbon apps, they are still not native to cocoa.
i keep IE for the few sites that wont load in Safari. it aint takin up all that room. but Safari is definitly quicker. and i tend to like Firefox the best.
IE isn't integrated into the OS like it is on the Windows side of things, so keeping it around "just in case" doesn't hurt.
if you get tinkertool, you can activate the safari debug menu. That lets you change who the browser says it is. Basically, you can make sites think that you are using IE, but in reality, you are running safari. Reccomended plugins that make safari the coolest thing ever:
plith helmet (ad blocking)
Saft (fullscreen, kiosk, shortcuts)
link to these plugins?