Discussion in 'OT Bar' started by kit99bar, May 25, 2008.
He looked NO different than the past. IMHO, the dude was innocent.
Can't be innocent and test positive.
Humungus the only one with a correct post in here, mostly because he didn't try to play scientist.
Stop talking about the effects of steroids if you don't know how they work and what they do.
Its just fucking annoying.
I dunno what to believe.
I mean, fucking LOOK AT THE GUY. Hes fighting guys in his class that are "top tier" and none of them look like that so obviously hes doing "something" different....
Are you fucking kidding?
Honestly with that post? really?
I think his only defense was that he passed a polygraph.
1) you can fake out a poly
2) even assuming that he sincerely didn't believe he was taking something, the tests show that he did. this is what happens when there's ZERO fda regulation of supplements. who knows what's in there.
Who cares, he still lost to BJ Penn
The dude's freakin small and for 155, I'm sure he can bulk up that easy.
Lets say he wasn't but knowing that the shit he was taking wasn't an FDA approved, who knows.
He may look the same here, but nobody needs steroids to look like that at 155lbs. His upper body is big because he's got chicken legs. He looked like a mini Tito Ortiz. I mean you can take steroids and still not look better than Sherk "natural", so you can't go by looks alone until you get up to 200lbs or more.
Both of his samples tested positive last time. Not that it should count at all, though it has in the past with Marquardt and Baroni, but he never took a retest and one of his supplements tested positive for 1AD. If he was taking 1AD unknowingly, he's still guilty of using steroids, even if it was used just for cutting.
You also don't know if he simply got smarter though. He had 6 months in between fights. Most fighters who fight every 3 months will have a 2 month window before the pre-fight test for a steroid to cycle out of their system, but why even bother take steroids if you can't take it for 2 months straight..it'd be a waste
wrong poll. It should be did sherk do roids knowingly or not
If I go by looks alone, he didn't, he looked just as ridiculous. If he did take them, it was to get over an injury, as most MMA atheletes do when they take it.
Sherk was subject to random tests in the middle of his training as well.
This whole convo is based on no solid info, and not to be a dick but nobody here has a fucking clue about steroids.
Whether he did or not, I don't care. I like Sherk a lot and nobody can deny his training regiment (steroids or not). But, he didn't win anyway.
BJ proved himself to be a better fighter last night. Period.
well there is the solid info of Sherk testing positive.
faking out a poly is a breeze I did it when I was applying to police departments. its a joke especially if you know how to prepare. I think sherk did do steroids but to be honest with you I think a lot of the guys in the UFC juice. With the way these guys train I think that alot of these guys are using roids to help bounce back from various injuries. I dont think they are using steroids in the sense to make themselves bigger and I dont think that sherk was using them to make himself stronger. I believe he was using the recovery aspect to his advantage so that he could train harder to prepare for his events.
Theres a number of guys out there that do it and I know a few that do. Theres different steroids that do different things imagine if some ones willing to cut 20 pounds to get an advantage in a lower weight class imagine what else some people will do to get an advantage in general. People target sherk because they know he failed a test but to be quite honest with you people there are many others out there doing the same and its one of the reasons I think that some of the pride cross over guys arent doing so good.
Namely shogun. he keeps getting injured now that hes in the UFC makes you wonder if its because hes was training at a rate he shouldnt have been and it was taking a toll on his body or if he wasnt able to use a little pick me up any more that made his body heal a little faster from the injuries
cage crew, can we please just stop on this subject ?
Its mostly speculation save for the people that got busted and its just this constant i know this guy juices i know that guy blah blah etc....
and its really a moot point all of this.
Sherk did fucking use steroids- whether he knew it or not.
So any oh but he looks the same, etc really has nothing to do with it.
and you can false positive a drug test especially nandrolone