I hate everyone of these. Too much ceiling. Really REALLY bad lighting in the bar particularly. Plus it was super over cast today so Flash was NOT working with me at all. Tried bouncing it off poster board, and it just looked like a spotlight. Among the times i could actually get it in a spot to where you couldnt see the hardware or the burst and other times where it wouldnt even fire because it was so bright the slave couldnt diferentiate between the sunlight and the flash. only these look usable out of the 50 or so i took. Im going back again for night shots. i think those will come out better. Also need to do some food shots.