Anyone do affirmations?

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  1. Falconer

    Falconer OT Supporter

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    Yeah this probably isn't the most vag-related topic, and would probably be more appropriately placed in the Asylum or On-Topic, but I like you guys the best so I wanted your opinions.

    Does anyone here have any experience with doing daily affirmations or anything like that? Were they effective? Talk to me about that.
     
  2. Jaff

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    I've done some of this but it didn't last. I had a hard time internalizing and identifying with them on a personal level. They always seem to be worded in a way that doesn't do it for me.... fake like... Lately I've been taking to setting my password at work to something like this just so it runs through my head every morning without effort.

    Something similar I've found useful is interrupting negative thought loops by reminding yourself how rediculous they have become and how you are a good person in society and shouldn't kill yourself etc.
     
  3. FloppyCock

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    This can't possibly work.

    What do you say to yourself?

    Edit: maybe I set the wrong tone, but I'm genuinely curious. What kind of stuff do you say, and does it actually do anything?
     
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  4. Falconer

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    Maybe come up with your own?
     
  5. fluentinsilence

    fluentinsilence Active Member

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    No, that's just silly.
     
  6. ware_ru

    ware_ru I know, I know, I'm amazing

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    positivity challenge
     
  7. BlackIce72

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    LOL experimenting with some David D or other NLP embedding/suggestion fans?

    I've used affirmations before and occasionally I'll read off a list, but nothing on a daily basis.

    You may NOW WANT to read through this list and BEGIN TO SEE the changes you might need to make to BECOME YOUR BEST SELF.

    Some might think these are bogus, and I'M RIGHT there with you on that.

    Humor them for a minute.

    I’m comfortable in my skin.
    I’m a strong confident communicator.
    I’m in control of my emotional self.
    Outside events don’t destabilize me.
    I’m not needy.
    I keep my power for me.
    I have no sexual hang-ups.
    I’m comfortable with my own views.
    I’m comfortable around women.
    I can hold back when I choose and delay gratification.
    I don’t tolerate disrespect to myself, time, or property.
    I’m a catch and any women that’s with me I is fortunate enough to have my attention.
    I’m not impressed by outward symbols or money status.
    I may be smitten by a woman, but I don’t tell her early on and I don’t let it slip indirectly.
    I don’t let women use looks and sexual power to take advantage; no special privileges.
    I’m unselfconscious and could care less what others think.
    I put my self and my life first.
    I deserve have permission and can hold an exceptional women.
    I’m indifferent to the outcome of all situations.
    I understand the culture; I get it.
    I can deal with any test a woman throws at me; in fact it’s usually kinda cute.
    I live in my reality and you’re a guest.
    I’m a cause in the world not an effect.
    I make things happen.​
    I could but I won’t.
     
  8. Falconer

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    Are you referring to "talk to me about them" because you bolded it? No. I just said that because that's what they said at my interview for my old job. There were no normal questions. It was all "Tell me about a time when..." Or "Talk to me about..."
     
  9. BlackIce72

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    1. I copied/pasted that from a .txt
    2. Instead of picturing me reading that go back and actually read what I wrote.


    I don't read those on a daily basis. In the past 2 years I've problably read them 5 or 6 times out loud.

    If you are familiar with affirmations or reframing (which you may indicate you are because you've read OF them) you would understand the usefullness of the repetition vs. cutting corners.

    It's easy, from a standpoint of having the belief that "this is my world", to imagine exercises like these to be a waste of time.
     
  10. BlackIce72

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    Oh.

    It's a classic communication tactic that a lot of seduction guys use.

    David D probably most predominantly.
     
  11. Falconer

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    It used to piss me the fuck off in job interviews.

    How is it used in seduction?
     
  12. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    and how did i not know about this
     
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    Floppy, I would have to assume it is the same principle as hypnosis.
     
  14. NCS

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    and how do i not get what you guys are referring to?
     
  15. Viper

    Viper Livin' la vida scrotum OT Supporter

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    :ugh2:

    I've tried those kinds of things, and they don't work for me. It's a bunch of paper-jockey stuff that self-help books like to throw at you.

    You don't have to consistently remind yourself that you are the greatest or that you are some confident person. Telling yourself that stuff will make you feel on top of the world for about 20 minutes and then all the crap comes rushing back in.

    The only way to truly gain self-confidence is through experience. You have to fail and then find the strength within yourself to get back up and go at it again and again until you meet with SUCCESS.

    Now, if you use these types of affirmations to motivate you to get back up after getting off your ass and doing something, then fine, do what works. But these are for the most part trash in my opinion.

    I would advocate meditation and/or "koans" over this stuff.
     
  16. BlackIce72

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    principle of psycho-cybernetics, hypnosis, nlp, etc. etc.

    It's not really that important



    Neither of you wrote self help books so while you understand the IDEA or premise of concepts you don't understand the neurology/psychology of it.

    And I'm not ragging on anybody, but unless you have formal training in therapy, hypnosis training, NLP certification, or something of that nature you have no business pretending to know precisely why certain things work and certain things don't.

    It's nothing personal.

    I thought I knew "all about" reframing, and "all about" affirmations until I took an NLP course and realized we've been taking massive shortcuts in learning about this stuff.

    And it's particularly frustrating when a person asks for advice or recommendations for something specific and, despite not actively and currently USING the tool, I recommend it out of his general curiosity and people assume I read them to myself every day.

    I don't.

    It's a copied/pasted list from a file I forgot I had.

    Do you go to the grocery store and say "I need food"?

    Or do you say "I need milk. I need eggs. I'm cooking dinner for my parents so I'll need pasta and meat."

    You cannot have the one without the many.



    There's a lot of hubris around here. A lot of people might be frustrated with their lives and hate their narcissistic attitude but can't help but admire themselves for "getting" something.

    It's common, and it's disappointing.
     
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  17. BlackIce72

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    Oh so you learned about reframing through a paid course?

    You had a teacher?

    A mentor?

    Personal discussion group (or classmates)?

    You can call someone up RIGHT THIS MOMENT who gets paid $300+ an hour for the work they do with these specific concepts?

    Or did you read it from Bandler or Monsters and Magic Sticks or Tony Robbins or some downloaded torrent -- or all of the above?

    I don't know your knowledge of the subjects. That's not my business. It's your own.

    But don't jump down my throat because he wanted to know about some affirmations and I showed him.
     
  18. chlywly

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    Keeping it as simple as possible is the best thing you can do, breathing deep is also. Going for it, is most important, nothing else will help.
     
  19. shrew

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    used to use them..... now i just get in state, i dont have to remind myself who i am anymore

    I am growing every day as a person.

    I am moving forward at mach speed.

    Every experience I have is valuable in some way.

    People are magnetically drawn to me.

    I radiate joy and warmth with my smile.

    The world (and everyone in it) is my friend.

    As I think, I shall become.

    My intentions manifest themselves when I strongly believe in them.

    I am a positive person, and I see the best in all situations. I see the best in other people and my purpose is to elevate them to higher level.

    I am steadfastly determined in the face of fears, obstacles, and setbacks. I am unconquerable.

    My will is my way. I determine my reality.

    My destiny is completely in my control. I am internally centered.

    Nothing can stop me.

    I am the coolest guy a girl will meet all day.

    I respect and accept others for who they are in the present moment.

    I am completely positive and open and nonjudgmental.

    My awareness permeates my being and my positive thoughts project onto others, drawing them closer to me on an unconscious, invisible level.

    I deserve the very best of what the world has to offer.

    The world has an unlimited abundance of women, friends, happiness, money, and value.

    I am overflowing with great emotions, chill vibes, and positive, playful energy, and I am strongly and unconsciously compelled to share it with others.

    Whether or not I enjoy my day is a conscious choice I make when I wake up and greet the day. Positive, energetic, optimistic fun-filled days of growth and achievement are mine when I simply make the choice to make it so.

    I live life by my own design.
     
  20. Falconer

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    I'm still waiting to hear examples of how "talk to me about that" is used in seduction.
     
  21. Falconer

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    Interesting. Thanks.
     
  22. Doc Love

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    Or tell them a story about your pet dog, that your dad got rid of when you were a child. As much as you don't subscribe to pua, the ideas are very similar to NLP, it's all becoming a self-help junkie if you don't go out and use it. Though I'm 100% sure you and Blackice both do that otherwise you couldn't talk about these things from such a perspective.
     
  23. ware_ru

    ware_ru I know, I know, I'm amazing

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    Wait, Viper... you're writing a self help book? Shouldn't a prerequisite of writing any sort of didactic book be that... the person himself is not only knowledgable but also skilled with the topic? I mean good for you if you make some money out of it, as long as you don't lie about your level of expertise or anything, and on a financial level that's cool and all, but don't you think it's a bit disingenuous for you to be doing something like that? Or more than just a BIT disingenuous?
     
  24. ware_ru

    ware_ru I know, I know, I'm amazing

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    the quote above is viper's a few posts above
     
  25. ware_ru

    ware_ru I know, I know, I'm amazing

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    i mean i'm seriously having something of an emotional reaction to this. That's just pernicious on a very very wide level man
     

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