TECH Anyone else running 10.6 Snow leopard, the developer version?

[mds2004]

What problems have you run to thus far and how long have you been using it?
So far Ive been running it for a week and have found a couple:
1. Utorrent beta stopped working.
2. Converting to 32 bit popup when in preferences menu
3. I cannot drag files from my download folder in the dock directly to the trash bin.

Other than that I love it, I really do feel it runs much smoother and I get longer battery life out of my Macbook. What little differences have you noticed that you liked too?

Edited and updated list includes....
1. Utorrent beta stopped working.
2. Converting to 32 bit popup when in preferences menu
3. I cannot drag files from my download folder in the dock directly to the trash bin.
4. iChat is finicky, not liking to always work but I use Adium most of time anyways.
5. On my Macbook it seems as if the time left on the battery stops counting down unless clicking on it.
6. Programs do not like to update themselves, getting some error about no permission. See post #10.

 

[JCrev]

Does the beta come with an updated version of xcode?

 

[5SpeedSER]

I wonder how much it will cost to upgrade once it's released..

$129

 

[mds2004]

Update on some more problems Ive noticed, but am not sure if they are due to Snow Leopard.

1. iChat is finicky, not liking to always work but I use Adium most of time anyways.
2. On my Macbook it seems as if the time left on the battery stops counting down unless clicking on it.
3. As of today my laptop is having trouble staying on my school's internet.

All of these problems are recent and were not a problem when Snow Leopard was first installed so we will see.

Updated edit:
#3 has seemed to be better too and I now connect to the internet just fine on campus without me changing anything.

 

[mds2004]

Does the beta come with an updated version of xcode?

Im not really sure. Explain to me what it is and I may be able to tell you.

Edit: I just googled it and I cannot find it either with Spotlight nor Quicksilver. It seems as if you can download it here anyways: http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/

 

[mds2004]

New major problem found...keeps spitting out CDs. I may have to revert back to regular Leopard.

Edit: This problem seems to be fixed and was only a problem on that day. Hopefully that problem wont come back.

 

[Casino]

What is this OS suppose to do? Is it suppose to run better? New features? My leopard already runs great, I can't imagine it running any better.

 

[mds2004]

Its like a slimmer faster version. I can actually tell a difference of it running quicker and I also seem to have a better battery life. Normally it is around 3-3.5 hours but I have gained almost a full hour of use on average.

And I always know how long it lasts because I am usually with my laptop and no plug in, which is why I have two batteries.

 

[mds2004]

New problem that I noticed is that programs do not like to update themselves. They download and then when I click install I get this:

If I reinstall the program myself using the newer version it will work though.

 

[kabloded]

How did you get to test this? Is it worth it in your opinion?

 

[Casino]

Whens the official version come out?

 

[mds2004]

How did you get to test this? Is it worth it in your opinion?

As annoying as the bugs are that I listed I really do feel that there was a speed increase in my computer and how fast is processes. Note though I am using 4gb memory and only 2.0ghz C2D so if you have a faster computer you may not want it. Is the increase worth it? I definitely think there was enough of an increase to say yes.

As for finding it, its up on torrents. I found mine from a rapidshare forum.

Whens the official version come out?

Not for sure, but Il definitely buy it when it comes out. According to this article, possibly June of 09.

 

[Legend Zero]

you think a ppc 1.5ghz will be supported by snow?

 

[mds2004]

you think a ppc 1.5ghz will be supported by snow?

I googled a few sites and it seems that it wont. I dont really know though.

 

[Pitt]

I wonder how much it will cost to upgrade once it's released..

whatever a blank dual layer dvd-r costs.

 

[kmad86]

Could I install Snow on a external hard drive? Does it have to be Firewire?

I am trying to figure out the best way to play with snow leopard without using it as a primary OS.

 

[mds2004]

Could I install Snow on a external hard drive? Does it have to be Firewire?

I am trying to figure out the best way to play with snow leopard without using it as a primary OS.

I put the ISO file on my external HD and installed it through my USB drive.

 

[DouggieJ]

I tried to install it once and got a kernel panic during the install. I think I'll just wait until the final version is released before I try again.

 

[mds2004]

I tried to install it once and got a kernel panic during the install. I think I'll just wait until the final version is released before I try again.

Try this (No I did not write this):

What You Need:

• Any INTEL-BASED Mac (PC/PowerPC will not work with this version)
• 512MB RAM (Since thats what's needed to run Leopard)
• For installation, You will need a DVD-DL or an External HD (Partition at least 7GB of space to restore)
• For booting, you will need a GUID Partitioned Hard Drive ONLY.
• At least 10GB of free space (20-40GB recommended)
• Patience, better safe then never
• Split & Concat (Freeware)

Getting Started:
If you plan on using an external hard drive that is not GUID formatted, read this:

http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/partitioning_tiger.html

Will you lose all your data using this process?
Yes.
Is there any way to format it to GUID without losing my data?
iPartition, but there is no cracked version on WBB because the serial has to be requested from the company's website.
What other options do I have that doesnt require me losing any data?
Your going to have to go the route I did and use your main HD. GUID basically makes a HD boot-able for an OS to run. Your main HD is already in that format, you will either need to restore the .dmg or burn the .dmg on a DVD9(Dual Layer).
Here's what you have to do (READ THIS BEFORE RESTORING AND INSTALLING SO YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO!):

• Boot the Snow Leopard installer.
• Once you've got it up and running, go up to the menubar and load "Disk Utility".
• Go to your main HD, and go to the "Partition" tab.
• Once you've reached that, click on the partition table, and below it, the "+" * "-" buttons should be un-greyed. Click the "+".
• Depending on the size of your HD, make it as small as at least 10-15GB (Some might no go any lower, my 250GB would only go 23GB minimum).
• Click Apply, and read the pop-up. It should state that the partition you've made will be added, and your main will only be resized.
• Once it's done, exit out, and you should be back to the installer.
• When it gets to the option of which HD to install it on, your new partition should show up.

To make the installer bootable, you have to follow the same method as Leopard. Once again, I partitioned my external HD and restored it. Worked fine.

1. Open the Leopard installation DVD using Disk Utility.
2. Using the Disk Utility, create a new dual layer (8.5GB) sparse image called leopard (actual filename will be leopard.sparseimage) and mount it.
3. Restore the Leopard installation DVD to the mounted leopard.sparseimage (not the image file.)
4. Open the mounted leopard.sparseimage with Finder, and delete the XCodeTools directory.
5. Unmount the mounted leopard.sparseimage.
6. Using the Disk Utility, create a new single layer (4.4GB) spare image called boot (actual filename will be boot.sparseimage) and mount it.
7. Restore the leopard.sparseimage image file to the mounted boot.sparseimage (not the image file.)
8. Unmount the mounted boot.sparseimage.
9. Burn the boot.sparseimage to your single layer DVD media.
Booting from this DVD works, but takes a long time.

Heres the way that works for me:

1. Download the dmg (I'm going to call it leopard.dmg)
2. Plug in your external harddrive (I'm going to call it newdrive)
3. Open up Disk Utility
4. Click on newdrive
5. You'll see "First Aid, Erase, Partition, RAID, Restore
6. Click on restore
7. You'll see two fields Source: and Destination:
8. For Source: select leopard.dmg from wherever it is on your harddrive
9. For Destination: drag newdrive from the Disk Utility drive list
10. Click on restore (It might take a while if you're using USB... maybe a few hours, just let it go)
11. Leave this new harddrive with leopard attached to your computer
12. Open System Preferences
13. Click on Startup Disk
14. Select newdrive with the Leopard Install
15. Restart the computer
16. Leopard install begins
17. Install it where ever you want.

I'll give you a walkthrough....

Since my iPod is next to me and my External HDD is being borrowed, we will refer to the iPod as the External HD. The leopard DMG on my desktop is a test, of course it is not 10MB

3. Open up Disk Utility
4. Click on newdrive(iPod)

5. You'll see "First Aid, Erase, Partition, RAID, Restore
6. Click on restore

8. For Source: select leopard.dmg from wherever it is on your harddrive
9. For Destination: drag newdrive from the Disk Utility drive list

Warning: the destination disk has to be formatted MAC and it WILL WIPE ALL THE INFO

12. Open System Preferences
13. Click on Startup Disk
14. Select newdrive with the Leopard Install
15. Restart the computer
16. Leopard install begins
17. Install it where ever you want.

Thats should be self-explanatory.

 

[TheWeasel]

Never bother with the betas. Why be an unpaid ginnea pig for Apple and run a crappy OS experience? Might be a bit different if you could just do an update to each new version instead of having to do a reinstall each time including when the retail version is released. Not even sure if I'd bother if it meant a free copy when the retail is released (even if we didn't get the free copies each time now). Really need an extra machine to do it on too. Wouldn't try it on a production system I used for anything important.