Discussion in 'On Topic' started by FusionZ06, Mar 24, 2008.
No one around me has them yet...
Haven't tried one yet. Personally, I'd buy a KelTec over a Ruger any day of the week, for the simple fact that I refuse to support Ruger unless I have to. YMMV
...and why is that?
I don't like them as a company. Starts off with the whole 'supporting the anti's 10rd. mag cap' thing, and most recently, swapping most of the 10/22's trigger group components from metal to plastic.
I haven't gotten to play with one yet but I don't see what the big fuss is about. It looks like the keltec design with the ruger name stamped on it. Big deal.
Had a p3at loved it. Sold it to finance a 1911. Regretted selling it and bought a pf9. Kept the 1911 tho.
I finger fucked serial number 500 (on the dot - it would be neat to have a serial number that low). It felt just like the similar Kel-Tec's, and i even handled them back to back. Ill be getting the LCP soon (AR comes first) because as i understand they had the same designers, just the LCP has updated/revised features.
If anyone cares the #500 is at take-aim in Sarasota, FL. They want $330 for it. It may be sold by now...that was Thursday night that i was there.
Dang $330 that's pretty high...
I'm looking at these as well, and I agree that $300+ is a tad high.
Thats pretty easy when you copy someone's design The p3at was designed by george kelgren.
Correct me if im wrong, but i read they were the same designers, and kel-tec didnt want to introduce revisions, so i guess this "george" took his designs and updates to Ruger.
Yea. http://www.onpointsupply.com/cart.php?target=product&product_id=69853&substring=ruger+lcp has it for significantly less and is local to me.
After a little looking online, they may not have the same designer after all. I would be interested in any info anyone has. Either way, I like what I am seeing with it.
George Kellgren owns Kel-Tec so whoever told you that story is just telling a tale.
So far I've seen nothing to indicate that its anything more than a copy of the keltec product.
p3at diagram (note this diagram is for 2nd general p3at, 1st gen p3at had extractor similar to lcp)
the p32 shares the old style extractor with the 1st gen p3at and the lcp
keltec part number laid out on ruger's gun
I see nothing original here and no improvements.
Yeah Onpoint is local - I emailed him the other day and he says he is awaiting his shipment. He said he'd email me when it comes in...
I'd go with the Kel-tec based on the fact that I don't like ruger anything other than .22, and their business philosophy.
Kel-tec has also had plenty more pistols out there that have proved to be reliable and easy to use. Kel-Tec also has pretty good technical service from what i've heard. That said, the one time I did call ruger to put my MKIII back together they were nice and helpful.
iirc, they changed the magazine to make it more reliable. At least thats what i heard from ruger on a shotshow video.
interesting Ruger is using the 1st gen extractor. That was the cause of some early fte's and the reason they switched to the 2nd gen style.
yea, I'm juts repeating what i saw. i like the idea of a cute little carry gun.
The LCP has a slide stop.... other than that, I got nothin'