Discussion in 'Fitness & Nutrition' started by Keysersozeh, Jul 18, 2006.
Since BN doesn't carry Ephed and etc. Can anyone suggest a stack?
Lipo6 is an awsome ephedrine free supplement, I take it when I wake up then about 4ish hours later I'll take ephedrine+caffine. I might start to add white willow bark to the EC to make a decent stack, it has the same synergies as asprine but doesnt hurt your stomach lining.
They have a version of lipo6 with ephedrine alkoids I believe, I dont know if it's as good as taking real ephedrine, also some people on this board said you shouldnt stack E with Y or S, which lipo6 contains, but I cant find any articals on why exactly.
Can anyone link me to a study of why E isnt good with Y and S?
I used to do the ephedine & caffine stack and that worked rather well. I'll have to check into Lipo6
ephed is the only fat burner thats actually been worth me spending money on.
I do beleive I'm gonna go for some clenbuterol for my cutting cycle since ephedrine is just about as difficult to get as this stuff these days.
don't do that
and ephedrine isnt hard to get... at all.
I'm gonna agree with Maine here. Ephedrine is available everywhere, and available online even cheaper. Clen is no only illegal, but potentally dangerous, and you shouldnt cycle clen and ephedrine at the same time. I like the way E makes me feel, so being off it kind of sucks, clen makes you feel like you have a mild sun burn, it ups your body temp, and you sweat more.
and the clen shakes are fun too... i cant tell you how much protein I spilled by missing the shaker
theres also the little heart necrosis thing to keep in mind
that's the "potentally dangerous" part. It hasnt been proven to be shown in humans, but it's safe to assume it happens. It's not going to instantly kill you, but being on clen for 10 years might have some serious effects on you down the road.
Clen never gave me shakes, come to think of it, EC doesnt anymore either. I'm pretty sure nothing gives me jitters anymore... wierd.
I actually read a few studies where it was in humans, one of the things that made me throw my bottles away
whats the highest dosage you went / go up to?
yea I finally found the necrosis studies mid cycle, kinda scared me. It's perminant damage, but it's a tiny tiny amount. over long periods of time that tiny amount really adds up, I guess probably like smoking one pack of smokes wont kill you, but doing 1000 will have some side effects, and if you're a chain smoker you'll probably die at 55 of lung cancer
The highest I go upto on clen is 120mg. I start and end at 25mg and do a 2 week cycle.
Any place online that sells ephed? I used to use bulk but it sounds like they are having issues.
they just dont sell it anymore for legal reasons
type in ephedrine hcl and find a place, there are lots