I think I had been aware of this concept for a while but it finally sank in on Saturday night when I opened a set of ugly to average chicks and was blown out. My mistake was this: As a guy, I place a high value on how a woman looks. A chick can be hot and boring and she will still get attention/be opened/get laid. In fact, she can have any possible combination of attributes and as long as she is hot, she will be desired. So I assumed the reverse would be true, too. I assumed that if I could get my looks to or beyond a certain point, I would instantly have social value with women. I thought this despite seeing tons of "ugly guys" with hot chicks. I rationalized it as "they'd rather be with a guy who looks like me than a guy who looks like that guy that they're with." This was logical male thinking and I shouldn't have applied it to women. It's no secret that I'm not the most social person in the world. I came up with the fucked up concept that, if I was good looking and not really social, this would work to my favor because chicks would see me and wonder what the mystery was about me... why is that good-looking guy by himself instead of with a group of frat boys. Well obviously it doesn't work that way. I would love to see a gorgeous girl by herself, but the reverse does not apply. By isolating myself I was failing preselection criteria (ie. the chick thinks "that guy is by himself --> therefore there is something wrong with him or other people would be with him --> therefore I don't want to get to know him"). Man... it's so the opposite with women, tho. A hot chick surrounded by a ton of guys turns me off. A hot chick by herself = attractive. But like I said, the reverse of this concept doesn't apply. I thought for a while that I could use my introvert tendencies to my advantage, but it doesn't work that way. btw, I'm kind of 'ing at this thread because on the looks scale, if I spend the time to make myself look good, I'm like a 7, tops. So I'm not even really good looking in the first place. lol. So there's no real point to this thread other than the fact that I'm agreeing with people who say looks don't really matter to a chick. Ever girl I've been with has loved my body, abs, etc., but the simple fact that hot chicks fuck ugly dudes proves that looks are not of high importance on the attraction scale.