Discussion in 'On Topic' started by nietsni3, Feb 23, 2007.
can an army captain order a navy seaman around?
You forget a Navy Captain is an O6.
edit: I am a moron.
Usually you only take orders from those you know are appointed over you.
then if they hate you for that will they call their peer who is supervising you to fuck you over?
Awhile back I got bitched at by a German Officer, because I didnt give greet him. He said "You are a sgt right? Why don't you greet higher ranks, I thought Marines were good soldiers" I tacfully explained to him that while its is a coutesy in the US military to greet someone of a higher rank, its not a rule. He wasnt happy with answer and looked at my name tag and said he would be remembering my name. Obviously nothing ever came of it. That was 2 months ago. If I greeted ever person here of a higher rank, I would be saying good morning 1324123412341234 times a day.
you should have snapped to and gave him a "HEIL HITLER!"
an Officer is an Officer.
Enlisted personnel are supposed to "Obey all lawful orders of officers appointed over" them. Technically all officers are "appointed over" any enlisted, hence they're officers. That doesn't mean he tell you to pick up trash or valet park his car though
there was a "cartoon" in Navy Times a few years back entitled "Why Marine Corps Captains get such nice rooms at the Navy Lodge" and it had a Marine on the phone saying "This is Captain...". All the receptionist hears is "Captain" and they start fumbling for the red carpet. It is kinda funny when you say something to another branch and say Capt and they're laughing inside thinking O-3 until they suddenly realize Capt in the Navy is the same as Col in the other 3.
umm...you are supposed to salute all officers both foreign and domestic. He was in the right. You were in the wrong. Your choice to not "say good morning a bazillion times a day" is all fine and dandy, doesn't mean you don't have to salute.
I think he was talking about greeting as in "good morning", and not the salute.
Why would you salute and not say anything?
In the AF we're expected to salute and render a verbal greeting.
true, but when all else fails...it sucks to be at an airbase where everyone and their brother is an officier
What enlisted hasnt taken the long way into a building when you see it shine in the sun.
I think he meant inside, giving a verbal greeting.
Me, I like making them salute. Especially when you see them trying to avoid it. Officers salute everyone.
we used to love it when we were in line at the Galley. See a butter bar coming out and he had to do the thing where he salutes everyone in line Talk about an arm workout
My guys will attack me outside sometimes to make me salute them. I don't avoid it -- usually, but they make a habbit of running up to me.
True, and as for saluting being a courtesy... in military language that's basically a must-do. It's not really optional, even if the terminology makes it sound as if.
I spent 5yrs at a joint assignment before I got out.... figuring out the ranks for all other services was fun. The only other service whose officers were hard to figure out was the Navy, since E7 and above wears a nearly identical uniform to an officer. Only way to tell was "if the hat is shiney on both sides, salute". Oh..and don't call a Master Chief just "Chief"... even though it takes a magnifying glass to spot the difference in ensigna...
Ok first off, There is a no saluting policy except for 1 star and above on this base... There is simply to many officers from all the different countries ..In the German army they do not salute every officer like we do in the US. They only salute the higher ups, like a colonel and above. but I didnt know his rank. I looked it up when I got back to the office and found him to only be a major.. Second. Working with 26 different countries on one single base, its impossible to learn all the ranks. Hell for some countries, its common for someone as low as a E5 to have two or 3 stars on there colllar that can easily be mistaken as a high ranking general.
Lastly, he said nothing about saluting him. This is not the German Armys customs, he simply didnt like the fact that I didnt tell him good morning. One thing I notice that they are real big on in German culture is greeting people and shaking hands. He obviously took this as me being rude.