I like the feel of the burn you get after you get a good set in for a muscle group. I revised my routine to accomodate more exercises that can be done on my limited equipment at home (2 dumbbells, barbell, bench, leg extension and arm pulldown thing and a bunch of freeweight): Monday: Biceps - Barbell Bicep Curl, Preacher Curl, Standing Dumbbell Curl Lats - Close-Grip Front Lat Pulldown Abs - Crunches Forearms - Dumbbell Wrist Curls, Reverse Wrist Curl Wednesday: Quads - Barbell Squat, Leg Extension Calves - Standing Barbell Calf Raise Hamstrings - Barbell Deadlift, Lying Leg Curl Lower/Middle Back - Superman, Bent Over Barbell Row Friday: Pecs - Barbell Bench Press, Dumbbell Flyes, Straight-Arm Dumbbell Pullover Delts - Military Press, Side Lateral Raise, Dumbbell Shrug Triceps - Seated Overhead Tricep Extension, Tricep Pushdown I do 45 min of elliptical cardio at 10-11 mph on Tues, thurs, sat. Sunday is my day off. Do the brolys see anything that should be added for a beginner newb lifter whose goals are to first get down to sub 12% BF and then start adding muscle? lifting for me means maintaining muscle for my initial fat loss. I think my back routine is weak but it's not a high priority right now...i think.