Okay the split that ive read on ot: upper lower off upper lower off off is recommended by countless posters on here. now the benefits of this workout (as i see it) are that you have enough rest in between working out and have hit each muscle group two days a week. the question i have is wouldnt doing chest. shoulders, arms(tris bis forarms) back all in the same day while still doing 4-5 workouts per muscle group keep you stuck in the gym for an hour plus. if not, youll burn out from doing so much. if you split half your upper into two days (chest and shoudlers one day, back and arms the other), then you're only doing it once aweek. can someone clarify this for me?