ENT GAME Bioshock bois: why is Abby the best character in gaming?

silkforcalde

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still on phoenotopia btw, really cool game. some of the random battles are kind of grueling though.

one thing annoyed me, i thought i was done talking to an NPC so i went and explored, got stumped as to what to do. knew i needed bombs to progress but the shack where you get bombs is locked. says i need a lock-picker and the npc i thought i had talked to enough said she was a lockpicker, but she's in indentured servitude and i have to capture the bandit leader to free her. so i figured i'd capture the bandit leader, free her, she'd pick the lock, then i'd get the bombs. couldn't figure out how to get to the bandit leader though. so i looked it up and i just needed to talk to that npc more and she would give me a side quest to hire a lockpicker. dunno how long it would've taken me to talk to her again, in retrospect it should've been the first thing i tried but i'd already talked to her a bunch. feel like this part of the game could be ironed out a bit better.
 

Highlander_77

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i guess we had different goals. when playing TLoU1, my goal wasn't to save ellie. it was to save humanity. when you reach the end and it's like "well she has to die" it's like, that's a bummer but the cost is easily worth it. then you're forced to brutally murder innocent people. i guess some people just don't really have morality or something? those actions are absolutely purely villainous and diabolical.


So in your view, the ends justify the means, huh? This doesn't sound like such a moral high ground to me...
 

silkforcalde

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So in your view, the ends justify the means, huh? This doesn't sound like such a moral high ground to me...

if your option is potentially cure humanity of a plague and sacrifice one person or go on a murderous rampage and slaughter defenseless people, is that really a choice at all? of course not.
 

Highlander_77

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Dec 7, 2000
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if your option is potentially cure humanity of a plague and sacrifice one person or go on a murderous rampage and slaughter defenseless people, is that really a choice at all? of course not.


That's one way of looking at it. Another way is that those "innocent and defenseless people" lied to you and are planning on murdering the person who you've come to view as your adopted daughter for a potential cure that may or may not work. Might not feel like the sort of people you'd have a lot of trust in at that point.
 

silkforcalde

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That's one way of looking at it. Another way is that those "innocent and defenseless people" lied to you and are planning on murdering the person who you've come to view as your adopted daughter for a potential cure that may or may not work. Might not feel like the sort of people you'd have a lot of trust in at that point.

you think they'd be able to tell joel the truth? he's irrational, stupid, prone to violence, and completely amoral.
 
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silkforcalde

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I just beat Inscryption. I cannot recommend this game enough. It’s a card game but it’s so much more than that. it’s one of the most unique games i’ve ever played. 10/10 what a fun experience.

i loved the ending, had some real chills
 
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