MMA Bjj Passing the guard question

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  1. TCSFunk

    TCSFunk OT Supporter

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    Hey guys I just started BJJ a couple weeks ago. I was exploring some websites and found a way to pass the guard, "The Can Opener." I was wondering is that a legal move for sport jiu jitsu, or just a street, mma move? Thanks
     
  2. VulgarTheClown

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    Its not a worth while more much at all and only works on noobs.

    The can opener can be defended by simply opening your guard. if you can pass off of that great. for the most part people don't act fast enough to get it working propperly.

    Also in some tournies they are illegal, in others they are only allowed as a pass and not for a sub, then in some they are totlay OK.

    You are better off learning a real guardpass than a brute strength manuver.
     
  3. Bausk

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    In tourneys where neck cranks are illegal, or legal to only pass and not sub, I've heard of people tapping to them even if not hurt to penalize you for them. So in other words, don't count on them.

    I've learned a couple different neck cranks because I don't plan on competing in BJJ with a Gi, but if you are studying BJJ I would stay away from them.
     
  4. TCSFunk

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    Thanks for the replies :bowdown: , whats a good guardpass that is effective that I should focus on?
     
  5. chechen

    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    i use the can opener to just open peoples guards sometimes.. but as a submission it sucks.

    dont get so caught up in learning everything at once.. ask to learn two very basic passes right now.. and keep working on making those work
     
  6. Maestro Nobones

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    werd ask your instructor dude we can't do much from here
     
  7. TCSFunk

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    Ill ask them next class :cool:
     
  8. illmatix

    illmatix Diamond Studded Member OT Supporter

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    :dunno: I don't know how you could even explain it with words.

    Put your knee on their butt and kick your other leg out. Keeping your knee on their butt apply pressure and twist up and away. Try to stand up while twisting your body away from the knee applying pressure, you should break his guard, grab his feet and spin him away and jump into side control, shoulder first. Use your hand to keep him from getting guard again by holding his knee until you can get close enough to trap him. Keep your arms inside to prevent getting subbed and keep your base stable to keep from getting sweeped. :dunno: My best attempt at describing the method I most frequently use.

    But you'll drill this shit a couple hundred times by the end of your second month.
     
  9. Maestro Nobones

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    don't forget to pin the hips for that technique
     
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    That's another way to open the gaurd...a punch to the face! - Mike Goldberg
     
  11. TCSFunk

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    Thanks man that was what I was looking for.
     
  12. Atmosphere

    Atmosphere PURPLE DREAM

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    neat article on subfighter. could use pictures though :hs:

    http://www.subfighter.com/article2511.html?GallerySession=0d2a68500eb713c4db59e1636b85cdcd


     
  13. chechen

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    Please don't ever quote that fag again :hs:
     
  15. Maestro Nobones

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    for real
     
  16. Atmosphere

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    yeah, very understandable. however, for a noob, it might be good for grasping the concept rather than execution
     
  17. Maestro Nobones

    Maestro Nobones Great Job! - GLAD DADS CREW

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    I highly doubt a noob could make heads or tails of that
     
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    yeah, just reread it and it was actually kinda confusing :o
     
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    lockflow.com nigga
     
  20. illmatix

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    :eek3: Cool site
     

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