Went to a gun show Saturday. Hi Point carbines were overpriced ($180 up) and I didn't see any of the other things I wanted, except for one guy who had a CZ-52 and wanted $180 for it Seeing tons of PA-63s and no Makarovs was also lame. So I picked up the C-9 for $130. Haven't shot it yet since I didn't want to go near the range on a gun show weekend of all days... I may have time tomorrow. It doesn't handle too bad, but the feed reliability remains to be seen. I actually don't dislike the way it looks, either, aside from the ridiculous-looking trigger.