building a new computer

amill94

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like, if i were telling someone to buy a PC to play comfortably any game or complete any workload today without breaking the bank, it would be something like this:


PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2K3vxs

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool CASTLE 280EX 97.03 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 UD AC ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($136.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX RX-79TMBABF9 Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card ($879.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2020.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-24 11:46 EST-0500

sub out the 7900XT for 4070ti, or a 7700x/b650 for the 13600k/z790 as you choose
I'm gonna jump in here and hopefully you or someone itt can help me out. What would you change on this build to get it to $1500ish? My buddy is looking to play Fortnite and COD and stream. That's the main purpose of the build. I know video cards are either OOS or overpriced right now but with that budget I'm not sure what to have him go with.
 

the_antsy_honda

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I'm gonna jump in here and hopefully you or someone itt can help me out. What would you change on this build to get it to $1500ish? My buddy is looking to play Fortnite and COD and stream. That's the main purpose of the build. I know video cards are either OOS or overpriced right now but with that budget I'm not sure what to have him go with.
IIRC AMD chips are better for esports. The G. SKill kit make sure to get the AMD EXPO version, more likely to work without issues. Could drop to the 7600 but meh I wouldn't get a 6 core in 2023

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xcvhpH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Frost Spirit 140 V3 BLACK 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($51.59 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($136.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card ($509.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $1501.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-24 13:20 EST-0500

Although, streaming perhaps nVidia and Intel make more sense.
 

the_antsy_honda

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Intel/Nvidia system for streaming

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sBHsNc

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($318.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Frost Commander 140 95.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($61.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B760M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Rev 2.0 GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB Video Card ($569.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $1494.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-24 13:27 EST-0500
 

the_antsy_honda

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You're married to a man? I mean, that's cool. Just never knew. :dunno:

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amill94

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Intel/Nvidia system for streaming

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sBHsNc

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($318.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Frost Commander 140 95.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($61.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B760M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Rev 2.0 GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB Video Card ($569.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $1494.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-24 13:27 EST-0500
Thanks man. And if he wants to upgrade the GPU to a 4090 or something when they drop in price in the next year he should be able to with this setup right?
 

the_antsy_honda

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Thanks man. And if he wants to upgrade the GPU to a 4090 or something when they drop in price in the next year he should be able to with this setup right?
i'd prob. go with a bigger everything if they were considering that big of a GPU, including a more powerful cpu and larger case

but most folks who are in that price range will never consider a GPU that costs as much as their entire system; the 4070ti for example is more realistic for those users and uses a fraction of the power
 

amill94

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i'd prob. go with a bigger everything if they were considering that big of a GPU, including a more powerful cpu and larger case

but most folks who are in that price range will never consider a GPU that costs as much as their entire system; the 4070ti for example is more realistic for those users and uses a fraction of the power
Good info. I'll tell him to look into a 4070ti when the time comes.
 

the_antsy_honda

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Good info. I'll tell him to look into a 4070ti when the time comes.
the 7900XT is a better buy; costs only a tiny bit more, but performs way better.

although, nvidia cards do have some benefit from streaming and stuff, other features for streamers that the amd doesn't have
 
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the 7900XT is a better buy; costs only a tiny bit more, but performs way better.

although, nvidia cards do have some benefit from streaming and stuff, other features for streamers that the amd doesn't have

out of curiosity, what's the difference between the 7900xt between those three brands


i'm not asking for a comparison, i can do that on their site, my question is more along the lines of, why do different companies make the 7900xt?

i see that like toyota having a camry and honda having a camry and nissan having a camry.
 

the_antsy_honda

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out of curiosity, what's the difference between the 7900xt between those three brands


i'm not asking for a comparison, i can do that on their site, my question is more along the lines of, why do different companies make the 7900xt?

i see that like toyota having a camry and honda having a camry and nissan having a camry.
The ones that look like this are all made to AMD's reference spec:

Radeon_RX_7900_45.jpg


They are made by different brands but they're all made almost identical and you should expect them all to perform exactly the same +/- silicon differences. Th ink of them as milspec parts.

The ones that look different are made to their own board partner spec and can have different cooling setups, power delivery, BIOSes, etc.

They still will perform almost all the same give or take a few small changes here or there, but mostly you're paying for better coolers.

Biggest differences between them all are how different companies handle RMA and customer service.
 

amill94

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The ones that look like this are all made to AMD's reference spec:

Radeon_RX_7900_45.jpg


They are made by different brands but they're all made almost identical and you should expect them all to perform exactly the same +/- silicon differences. Th ink of them as milspec parts.

The ones that look different are made to their own board partner spec and can have different cooling setups, power delivery, BIOSes, etc.

They still will perform almost all the same give or take a few small changes here or there, but mostly you're paying for better coolers.

Biggest differences between them all are how different companies handle RMA and customer service.
So being an Nvidia guy, if I can't get a good deal on a 4xxx card soon, which third party brands would you recommend or which would you avoid for the AMD 7900 XTX
 

the_antsy_honda

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So being an Nvidia guy, if I can't get a good deal on a 4xxx card soon, which third party brands would you recommend or which would you avoid for the AMD 7900 XTX
XFX has a weird reputation, but they are a known AMD only manufacturer. I've had 2 GPUs from them without issue.
Sapphire is like XFX in that they only make AMD, but they are considered top tier.
Power Color is similar to XFX but doesn't have any negative reputation issues as far as I'm aware.

The others such as Gigabyte MSI and ASUS are hit or miss, they aren't as specialized and tend to reuse their cooling solutions across GPUs so sometimes its good and sometimes it's bad. They also tend to charge a lot since they carry a bigger name on their backs and often have specialized enthusiast models.

I'd avoid the Chinese market ones, like Yeston or Corn or whatever.

If it were me I would go for the AMD only ones. I have AMD cards from XFX, Sapphire, Power Color, and ASUS. The only one that has failed on me was the ASUS. But that's a small sample size and probably doesn't mean anything.

EDIT: and I wouldn't get ASRock personally, they seem like nissan of computer parts from what I've read and from persona experience
 

amill94

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XFX has a weird reputation, but they are a known AMD only manufacturer. I've had 2 GPUs from them without issue.
Sapphire is like XFX in that they only make AMD, but they are considered top tier.
Power Color is similar to XFX but doesn't have any negative reputation issues as far as I'm aware.

The others such as Gigabyte MSI and ASUS are hit or miss, they aren't as specialized and tend to reuse their cooling solutions across GPUs so sometimes its good and sometimes it's bad. They also tend to charge a lot since they carry a bigger name on their backs and often have specialized enthusiast models.

I'd avoid the Chinese market ones, like Yeston or Corn or whatever.

If it were me I would go for the AMD only ones. I have AMD cards from XFX, Sapphire, Power Color, and ASUS. The only one that has failed on me was the ASUS. But that's a small sample size and probably doesn't mean anything.

EDIT: and I wouldn't get ASRock personally, they seem like nissan of computer parts from what I've read and from persona experience
I remember seeing XFX and Saphire when looking for an XTX and was basically like
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are these brand?
 
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Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX is a good mid-ranger


MSI PRO Z790-A Wifi is good on the hardware level, but might have a few less IO than the Gigabyte
The Prime line used to look good. Now it looks like a weak ass sci fi adventure wannabe thing.


ASUS Prime Z790-A is comparable to the other two just more expensive for no real reason. Also, looks goofy as fuck. Also has weak I/O
 

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