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the_antsy_honda

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Also there's not much difference between the 13700k and 13900k; just slightly higher stock frequency, a tiny bit more cache, and 8 more e-cores which may or may not really be beneficial for your workloads anyway
 

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I recently with 12th gen i9 and MSI and have been impressed so far, didnt think the additional cost for 13th gen was worth it for me
 
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the_antsy_honda

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yeah 13th gen is just a tiny improvement over 12th gen, mostly its they shifted the segmentation down. new i7 is a slightly better older i9 at a better MSRP

if you can get a deal on the 12th gen stuff its not bad.
 
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recently built a new pc:

Intel Core i7-12700K
MSI MAG B660 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 LGA 1700 Intel B660 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-64GVK
SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.3c Samsung V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Video Card RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G OC

no ragerts
 
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UD is an entry level from gigabyte; it's much better than it used to be and is solid choice for gamers but if you're going for a 13900k and wanting a "best that you can get for the current environment" I'd go for something closer to the aorus line

from this link alone, the UD was listed under exceptional and extremist :rofl: that's why i selected it.

the CPUs i'm between are the 13900k and 12900k, which mobo would you go with?
 
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this is why i hate building PCs :rofl:

if i didn't have a case and PSU, i'd probably just buy something pre-built.
 

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link what you bough please
 

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I also went with Corsair RAM, Z73 cooler, 980 Pro SSDs, and Asus 3080ti. Have had no issues running anything I've thrown at it with VMs running in the background for a lab
 
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the_antsy_honda

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from this link alone, the UD was listed under exceptional and extremist :rofl: that's why i selected it.

the CPUs i'm between are the 13900k and 12900k, which mobo would you go with?
Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX is a good mid-ranger


MSI PRO Z790-A Wifi is good on the hardware level, but might have a few less IO than the Gigabyte



ASUS Prime Z790-A is comparable to the other two just more expensive for no real reason. Also, looks goofy as fuck. Also has weak I/O
 
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8th/9th gen intel vs Ryzen 1000/2000/3000 Intel was better at everything except value (and some production vs 3000)

10th gen/11th gen Intel vs Ryzen 5000 AMD was better at everything except value (lower end 10th and 11th gen stuff was real cheap and decent)

12th gen/13th gen Intel vs Ryzen 7000 Intel is better at everything...even value

(some overlap there but you get the idea)

And so forth
Meh, better power consumption with Ryzen which will add up over 5 years :yawn: ;)

Any announcements if AMD will use the same socket for 8000 series? I'm assuming 13th gen won't share one with 14th gen, which honestly may or may not matter. Either way, that'd be a factor in the decision today since neither 8000 series or 14th gen are here yet and won't be until later in the year.

And then, you're getting back into the dice rolling game. Chinese Covid Outbreak has entered the chat. Will production and shipping get constrained and see the current options move back towards MSRP? Will we see an economic downturn and see retail prices drop as demand continues to plummet in the year following the largest drop/decline year over year in the CPU/GPU industry??

Who knows!

IDK. 13600K would be a better buy vs.. 7600X. The 7600X is 21.9% cheaper.. is the 13600K necessarily 21.9% faster/better? (who knows, get a 13400F instead if you wanna be budget conscious)

I prefer competition, I'll ride til I die with AMD :rofl: 🤡 :hsd:
 
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thanks for all the info. i'm going back and looking at other posts, to save some money i might go with the i7 1200k

That was my thought. I just finished building a new PC based on this- https://www.microcenter.com/product...-wifi-ddr4,-cpu-motherboard-combo?storeid=151. It has the 2.5g networking you were
asking about as well.

My (mostly) new build
  • Intel i7 1200k
  • Asus TUF z690 plus
  • NZXT Kraken X63 RGB AIO
  • Samsung 1TB 980 PRO PCIe 4.0 x4 M.2
  • Samsung 2TB 980 PRO PCIe 4.0 x4 M.2
  • Kingston FURY Beast 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz DDR4 CL18 Desktop Memory Kit of 4
  • CORSAIR - RMx Series RM1000x 80 PLUS Gold
I kept my NXZT H510 case and GeForce RTX 3070 for now. Kinda wish I had bought a new case but should be fine.

Haven't gotten to mess with benchmarking yet, just finished the build last night. First full build since like 2006 since I've been doing prebuilds. Took forever to figure out what I was doing.

I ended up just getting a Synology ds920+ for my NAS needs, and am running Plex on there. It works perfect, but I only have 1080p content, not sure how well 4k transcoding would be.
 
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this is why i hate building PCs :rofl:

if i didn't have a case and PSU, i'd probably just buy something pre-built.
I didn't think about this half as hard as you seem to be

Went on pc parts picker with a budget in mind and had it all ordered from newegg in an hour or so
 
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the_antsy_honda

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well as I said earlier, you won't really lose out with any of these choices right now.

i would go with AM5 if I was worried about platform longevity for sure though. They've promised support for new CPUs through 2025. Intel is already done with LGA 1700.
Meh, better power consumption with Ryzen which will add up over 5 years :yawn: ;)

Any announcements if AMD will use the same socket for 8000 series? I'm assuming 13th gen won't share one with 14th gen, which honestly may or may not matter. Either way, that'd be a factor in the decision today since neither 8000 series or 14th gen are here yet and won't be until later in the year.

And then, you're getting back into the dice rolling game. Chinese Covid Outbreak has entered the chat. Will production and shipping get constrained and see the current options move back towards MSRP? Will we see an economic downturn and see retail prices drop as demand continues to plummet in the year following the largest drop/decline year over year in the CPU/GPU industry??

Who knows!

IDK. 13600K would be a better buy vs.. 7600X. The 7600X is 21.9% cheaper.. is the 13600K necessarily 21.9% faster/better? (who knows, get a 13400F instead if you wanna be budget conscious)

I prefer competition, I'll ride til I die with AMD :rofl: 🤡 :hsd:
 

the_antsy_honda

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thanks for all the info. i'm going back and looking at other posts, to save some money i might go with the i7 1200k

12700k, any of the boards would be good and if you're saving money, and not looking to OC, even consider a decent B660. You still get memory OC.

if you're near microcenter, see if they have any promos. A while back they were giving away free mobos with 12th gen chips
 
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I also went with Corsair RAM, Z73 cooler, 980 Pro SSDs, and Asus 3080ti. Have had no issues running anything I've thrown at it with VMs running in the background for a lab

both CPUs i'm looking at are lga 1700, in the past i've only purchased CPUs with heatsinks. which corsair did you get?
 
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12700k, any of the boards would be good and if you're saving money, and not looking to OC, even consider a decent B660. You still get memory OC.

if you're near microcenter, see if they have any promos. A while back they were giving away free mobos with 12th gen chips

i can get to one, but i'd rather have everything picked out ahead of time vs looking for bundles in the store. i'll probably overlook something and have some type of compatibility issue.
 
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the_antsy_honda

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i can get to one, but i'd rather have everything picked out ahead of time vs looking for bundles in the store. i'll probably overlook something and have some type of compatibility issue.
then the UD is a pretty good choice imo stll, save you $50-100. it won't throttle the 12700k
 

the_antsy_honda

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fuck now I want to build a new computer

new computer or sony a7iv....
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