GUN Co National Park to allow elk hunting

Discussion in 'On Topic' started by TL1000RSquid, Feb 9, 2007.

  1. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

    Jun 9, 2004
    Likes Received:
    So when are we meeting a strikers house for the WMD hunt?

    State to allow hunters in national park
    Park's cull of the wild
    By Jeremy P. Meyer
    Denver Post Staff Writer
    Article Launched: 02/09/2007 12:03:05 AM MST

    Estes Park - State wildlife commissioners will seek to change a 78-year-old federal law so that hunters would be allowed inside Rocky Mountain National Park to manage a growing and pesky elk herd.

    About 3,000 elk make the park home during the year, and they are wearing out their welcome - destroying aspen groves, decimating meadows and ruining beaver ponds.

    In neighboring Estes Park, the problem has turned almost comical - with elk being found with Christmas lights, swings and even bicycles wrapped around their heads.

    "It's been interesting with some of the nonsense that goes on," said district wildlife manager Rick Spowart. "This is a difficult herd to manage."

    In June, federal park officials will release a plan on what they will do about the elk. It will not involve a public hunt, which is forbidden by federal law.

    A draft proposal released last year suggested spending up to $18 million over 20 years to cull between 200 and 700 elk a year. Park officials say the final plan will be less expensive.

    During their monthly meeting Thursday, state wildlife commissioners urged hunting in the park.

    "Culling is not hunting; it's shooting them," said Commissioner Rick Enstrom. "It's a waste of a valuable resource."

    The state Division of Wildlife "is willing to manage" the herd, Enstrom said.

    The division would be prepared to train hunters and supervise the hunt, he said.

    The National Park Service, instead of spending millions of dollars for the cull, could actually get hunters to pay to participate, Enstrom said.

    U.S. Rep. Mark Udall, D-Colo., in July asked Rocky Mountain National Park Superintendent Vaughn Baker to consider the proposal allowing a special public hunt of elk in the park.

    The idea was rejected, Baker said Thursday, because it would violate a 1929 law prohibiting hunting in the park.

    Few U.S. national parks allow hunting.

    "It's not an option for us," Baker said. "...We have to be concerned with visitors."

    Enstrom said the law was written long before elk became a Rocky Mountain National Park problem, adding that hunting is the best way to manage big game.

    In fact, 15 years before the law was written into the books, the animals were being reintroduced to the Estes Valley because unregulated hunting had left few elk.

    A herd of 50 was brought from Yellowstone National Park to the valley in 1913 and 1914.

    Since then, the herd has exploded in size. From 1969 to 1999, the number of elk in the valley increased from 500 to 3,000.

    About 100 elk are found in the town of Estes Park year-round. They have become tourist attractions, although they are also causing problems.

    Rob Edward, director of carnivore restoration for the conservation group Sinapu, is urging wolves be reintroduced to help keep the herd in check.

    That is one alternative being considered, Baker said.

    Edward said state polls say 70 percent of Colorado residents would support reintroduction of wolves.

    Park biologist Therese Johnson said wolves would help solve the problem, but because the park is so close to urban areas, their reintroduction could also cause problems and be very controversial.

    Staff writer Jeremy P. Meyer can be reached at 303-954-1367 or [email protected].
  2. t1h

    t1h Guest

    well when man quit hunting them for food 100+ years ago, this is what happens
  3. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

    Oct 3, 2005
    Likes Received:
    It's going to be pretty hard to get a permit to hunt them.
  4. Thunderbear

    Thunderbear Yggdrasil's Forester.

    Sep 23, 2001
    Likes Received:
    -Tick tock, tick tock til Ragnarök-
    That's lovely, considering ninety percent of the general population knows fuck all about species control.

    So, instead of going with the option that generates revenue for the park system, and can be managed, we're going to introduce a potentially invasive species to solve a problem we created. We can't control the wolf population, they're predators, unlike elk, and THEY COST MONEY.

    Fucking retards in government jobs... if stupidity like that is indicative of low level conservation jobs, I shudder to think of the genius contained in Capitol Hill. :rolleyes:
  5. striker754

    striker754 Chillin

    Dec 13, 2001
    Likes Received:
    i dont live too far from estes

    belt fed hunting?
  6. JaimeZX

    JaimeZX Formerly of :Sep 2001: fame - Also: Sprout Crew OT Supporter

    Nov 7, 2005
    Likes Received:
    Charleston, SC
    Actually I saw a very interesting documentary on the elk herds in Yellowstone, and how their population had screwed up a bunch of things. For example, there were almost no young aspen trees in some areas of the park because they were all eaten by elk during the winter, etc. Also the beaver population had declined significantly because they couldn't make dams or lodges because there was a declining population of trees around the streams as the beavers cut trees and no new ones were growing in. Etc.

    Since reintroduction of wolves a number of these issues have begun to resolve themselves. The smaller elk herds are more wary and don't venture out into the open as much, so there are lots more young trees springing up, allowing the beaver population to increase again... (I'm leaving out a lot of details here because I saw this some time ago.)

    In any event, I would support the reintroduction of wolves into a lot of national forests and parks (in areas where they had lived previously) as long as the public had authority to "control" them if they left the confines of the park. I would also support a hunt in the park to "reduce the surplus population." :p
  7. cabriolet

    cabriolet ...

    Mar 7, 2003
    Likes Received:
    isn't an out of state permit in CO ridiculously priced anyway, and on top of that probably a lottery? Sounds nice for CO residents though
  8. Goat

    Goat That crack is really moreish

    Jan 23, 2002
    Likes Received:

    An out of state permit and just about any state is usually ridiculous, especially in the states with big game like elk. And the lottery depends on the state or the area of the state you're trying to hunt in.

Share This Page