GUN Crossfit taking over PT?

[OhhMikey]

Anyone else at a base that's spending/wasting ridiculous amounts of money to support facilities, purchase equipment, and pay trainers for Crossfit?

I'm at Luke AFB and was selected to be a PTL for my shop and there was a mandatory "train the trainer" course we had to go through teaching crossfit techniques. Some of the shit they had us doing was awkward as fuck and there was simply no way I could use any of it for my PT sessions.

I can't say Crossfit doesn't work because for the most part those who swear by it are all in pretty damn good shape. I just think that there are better ways to spend $300,000+ to improve PT test pass rates. (Roids, for example)

 

[cbs_24]

It's the same at Eglin. They built a crossfit course here pretty recently.

 

[jokka]

i hate all the crossfit dweebs that think they are part of some elite fitness society.

98% of them should stick to a regular gym routine and put on some size/strenght b/c they aren't going anywhere doing 50 reps of deadlifts with 50lbs.

 

[i_is_surf]

While I hate all the crossfit cliques popping up everywhere, it is a more realistic workout for police/fire/military than the normal routine of pull-ups, push-ups, sit-ups, and running.

But like with everything, you get out of it what you put into it, and there is a possibility that someone could be sandbagging because they don't really want to work out.

 

[Blackfox]

I had to do something like this for my unit. A bunch of NCO's were selected for a 3 week program that was all alternative PT stuff. It included the insanity program, a lot of crossfit, proper HIIT usage, etc. They had certified trainers come in and teach us. Got a lot of good stuff out of it but I would never just do crossfit or anything similar.

 

[Blackfox]

Also, myself and a few other NCO's rotated doing the remedial PT sessions for guys who were overweight or failed the PT test. We had to exclusively use the insanity program (SGM thought it was the greatest thing ever). Guys lost weight, but run times didn't get any better.

 

[OhhMikey]

i hate all the crossfit dweebs that think they are part of some elite fitness society.

98% of them should stick to a regular gym routine and put on some size/strenght b/c they aren't going anywhere doing 50 reps of deadlifts with 50lbs.

This is absolutely my main gripe against the program. I have a pretty disciplined workout regimine, but I don't go bragging to everyone about how many "monkey pullups" or "box squat ball tosses" I can do. You don't think I could "survive" one of your crossfit workouts? I've never thought about it... Maybe not? I don't know, don't give a fuck. I pass my PT test and bitches love my body.

 

[Fail]

The best way to get better at push-ups, sit-ups and running is to do push-ups, sit-ups, and run.

 

[The Method]

http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=4808949

 

[DawnsKayBug]

"Someone" told me about a year ago Crossfit wasnt encouraged because at Base "X" they had their failures do it and they didnt really improve. I did it at my last base on MWF and we could go 2 weeks and do maybe 20 pushups.
Whats the most you run doing crossfit 400m?
We have our PT failures either on Days or Graves 0600 at the Gym and they do pretty much Abs/Chest MWF and run 1.5-4 miles on Tuesday and Thursdays. Only 1 repeat failure from 9 in 90 days 3 got excellents

 

[supramandrew87]

4BDE 4ID is doing a Maximum Effort/Dynamic Effort weight lifting split focusing on athletic strength. Bench, Squat and Deadlift are the focal point, with accessory exercises to compliment the main effort.

 

[NisAznMonk]

It's the same at Eglin. They built a crossfit course here pretty recently.

Yep. That field house is actually really nice too. Unfortunately the main gym will be closed until March, and who knows what will happen to that place.

 

[cbs_24]

Yep. That field house is actually really nice too. Unfortunately the main gym will be closed until March, and who knows what will happen to that place.

i haven't been to the new field house yet, but everybody in my shop seems to like it. my squadron has a little gym, so i usually use that.

 

[MumblingJoe169]

yes, we should go back to the old days when we did jane fonda's and all sorts of other pointless exercises for an hour every morning. Also, we should run 5 times a week because thats the only way to improve running.

 

[Zee]

Spend umpteen million's of dollars for a over hyped fitness program....cancel an Enlisted Development workshop due too lack of funding

Oh BTW....fit to fight is just a way to descriminate against people...just because you cant run dont mean you cant do the damned job

 

[jeffreyliu838]

Benning just had a 3 million dollar crossfit gym built less than a mile from a non crossfit gym lol.

 

[allng]

yes, we should go back to the old days when we did jane fonda's and all sorts of other pointless exercises for an hour every morning. Also, we should run 5 times a week because thats the only way to improve running.

airborne shuffle for eight thousand miles is the only way to stay army fit, dog

 

[JSin]

just because you cant run dont mean you cant do the damned job

It does if your job involves running.

 

[Zee]

It does if your job involves running.

Fine..then take a PT test for your job....if the Air Force has too run(away)...we're fucked

 

[cossack]

It does if your job involves running.

exactly, point me to a job in the military where in combat with a full load of equipment they will run 2 miles.

 

[Fail]

exactly, point me to a job in the military where in combat with a full load of equipment they will run 2 miles.

Your training must really suck. I've done that multiple times, and I'm in the National Guard.



EDIT: In training. I just realized I misread the context of that quote.

 

[JSin]

Fine..then take a PT test for your job....if the Air Force has too run(away)...we're fucked

I assume you got into the Air Force before it was a requirement to take a PT test with a run then?

Or are you one of those people that knows the requirements of a job, signs up to do it, and then complains about it. If you don't want to run for your job (Air Force), I'm sure you could find another one out there that doesn't require it. There are tons of jobs out there that won't care if you are a fat, out of shape blob, the military isn't one of those.

 

[OhhMikey]

I'm not a big fan of the way the AF judges our fitness... I guess I figure if you have a desk job and you're a shitty runner, I don't think you should receive a poor EPR and face potential separation because you ran a 14 minute 1.5 mile. I've known some good people get the axe for PT failure, and I viewed them as AF assets that were thrown out.

I do believe in maintaining a certain military image that reflects positively on the AF, so at a minimum it should be required that you're not a big nasty-looking fatass. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing an ogre-ish fat chick in a military uniform eating anything. It could be a healthy snack - doesn't matter. She needs to stop eating.

 

[NEp8ntballer]

exactly, point me to a job in the military where in combat with a full load of equipment they will run 2 miles.

Somebody pointed out the Mogadishu Mile when I made that same argument...

 

[Zee]

I'm not a big fan of the way the AF judges our fitness... I guess I figure if you have a desk job and you're a shitty runner, I don't think you should receive a poor EPR and face potential separation because you ran a 14 minute 1.5 mile. I've known some good people get the axe for PT failure, and I viewed them as AF assets that were thrown out.

I do believe in maintaining a certain military image that reflects positively on the AF, so at a minimum it should be required that you're not a big nasty-looking fatass. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing an ogre-ish fat chick in a military uniform eating anything. It could be a healthy snack - doesn't matter. She needs to stop eating.