date update/neil strauss the game. Second girl is worth the read for how i pulled her A little quick background info for some of you guys about me. College student who has always struggled with girls for my whole life. Lack of confidence/no balls to say anything resulted in me having very few dates and only 2 gfs. I said to myself something has to change, because im not liking this kind of lifestyle. I thought hey i might as well pick up this book(the game) since it got good reviews, and im so glad i did. I don't want to focus on this book, because we already discussed that. I know some people think it doesn't work, which i agree/disagree. You cant keep using canned shit, and sound like a robot. What this book did for me, was give me a new perspective of how to be confident, funny and cocky, the person who i have always been, but always shy to express it. I was shy to actually be up front with girls and joke around with them, because i was worried about their reactions. The date. Ill make this short since it is really not that exciting, cause i wasn't feeling her. First off this was my first time seeing this girl for a while, so i didn't know what to expect. I pull up to pick her up at her home, and i realized she was better looking than i remembered. When i picked her up i was very nervous, but then i regained composure and said i got this. So we had a nice conversation over dinner and i joked around with her alot, and just talked about the general stuff people do when they first meet. Their lives, family, friends etc. I let her do most of the talking, while i responded with keeping a joking vibe, i could tell she was feeling it by her body language, her laughing alot and saying im having a good time. I was always more likely to be more confident on this date, since she is the who asked me out. She was nice, but for some odd reason i want really into her. she wasn't as joking as me, or funny and i guess i was hoping for that, i just didn't have that feeling about her or see her as another person i would like to take out/date. Next we go to play some bowling, where i thought this could get interesting. We were both drinking only a little at the place, and she was having a good time, but i was kinda bored. We stayed their for bit, and then I decided i had enough bowling. I ended the date by brining her home, and i knew i was in for it. She kept putting on chap stick towards the end of the night, so i got the vibe she wanted me to kiss her, but i didn't.I could have been completely wrong since it was winter, but multiple applications over a short time got me wondering. I gave her a hug and decided to leave it at that,even though she was looking for the kiss. Couple reasons why i wasn't into her. 1. She is looking for a relationship i could tell, and wanted someone to hold down/be with and this wasn't for me at the moment since this is my first date in a while. 2. She was a little annoying before we even got up to date. Dozens of texts/im messages/pre stalking (a funny story) ask if your interested, and would seem to clingy so i kinda had a bad vibe already. I still went on the date more for the experience aspect. . She continues to bother me even though i ignore her. Calling me to go over and watch late night movies with her, go to parties with her, a few text a day etc. I continue this at the friend level only, trying to clearly give her that sign. Girl 2 Date coming up if I want. Another girl who im really attracted to both physically and by her personality. Everyone is attracted to this girl, i would say she is an 8-9, with one of the nicest asses I have ever seen. So at the time i met her, i thought no way i can get this girl, but regaining composure made things easy. Since i spend time with her for an internship at a local facility, i had things in my favor/working against me. Spending 10 hours or so a week around her, is a good amount of time to either keep her interested or to turn her off. The problem with this girl is that everyone wants to get with her. Where the last girl i took out, she was good looking but nothing you would give a second look, i knew this would be a challenge. I forgot to mention, i had other competition as well. Along with me a couple other guys also intern with as well, mostly on the same days as well. They fall over her, and treat her nice, ask her the same shit guys do to try and get some pussy. I almost fall flat on my face and pulled the same shit, but i remembered something very important from the book. When dealing with someone like this, i have to neg hit her even more and totally play with her because she is used to guys falling over her, and trying to get with her. So while the other guys who are both single did the routine i would have used about a month ago, i went and did what felt normal actually. Neg hit, after neg hit, after neg hit, joking around, embarrassing her, making her laugh every time when we worked together. Her reactions to me while she was smiling all the time, is that i hate you, hope your not coming into work tomorrow so i don't have to work with you, im mean, rude and obnoxious. At the end of the day we leave the same time, she waits for me by the door just to walk her out, and drops hints that we should meet at the bar, because she will be their on this day. I ignore this hint to an extent and say yeah maybe ill see you their, im kinda busy though. I did this for the reason being is because i already know she likes me, by her body language, obviously not through conversation. She comes in and says i didn't see you their, wish you would have came. I say im busy, and continue doing what i have been and she is getting even more impatient, while im setting it up for the closure. You guys might be wondering why i haven't asked her out yet, and jumped on the opportunity. This girl i now see a a potential fuck buddy/one night stand but not someone i would date. She has mentioned the bars quite a bit, and seems to do the typical college girl thing thurs-sat. Drink, get drunk and prolly fuck/hookup/tease or whatever, but this is not a potential gf only fuck. I could tell this has been going on long enough,because if i don't ask her out sooner or later she might get some suspicions or lose interest. I keep joking with her more on this day, and then she is the one who makes a forward round about statement of actually cooking me dinner and taking me out to the bars. Instead of jumping on it right away, i joke with her for a bit and the next day and i capitalize on it. So im in control now or always was actually and i cant take her out if i want. She has shown clear ioi's(indications of interest) by a few other things she has done as well that i didn't mention. It is up to me whether or not to proceed, which i will i think again just for the experience. I really don't want to get caught up with a girl who is a heavy partier, since that isn't my style and wouldn't ever date someone like this. Conclusions to 2nd girl/wrap ups. Did the total opposite of what most guys would have, and it worked perfectly,so good she actually ended up actually asking me out, which now is the second girl who has. You also have to remember she is a looker and everyone falls over her, so i know i worked it right for her to pick me over the rest. Contemplating on taking her out, but most likely will anyways. Not my type in the fact she obviously likes to drink and party to much which i dont care for and these girls usually end up being total sluts. Either way i still feel a sense of accomplishment for getting another date so easily. Finally if fact her is the reality that is still there. I didnt have a date with this girl yet or hook up either, so whats the point of this thread. The point is that im not a great looking guy, a guy with money, a guy with a nice car or anything special. She might not be anything special, but the fact is that she is hot, a second looker, people want to get with and guess what, she aksed me out. When was the last time you think that happened, i bet it hasn't. By going outside my boundaries, i realize with joking around and being interesting at the same time i can get any girl i want, your confidence starts to sore and realize it has always been with you, but you just have to learn how to use it.