Description of many Nutrients & Supplements

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  1. darkostoj


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    I got them in Alphabetical order, let me know if anything isn't right so I can change it. :)

    (1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-diol) or (1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-dione). An oral only
    compound that converts to a different target hormone altogether, namely 1-testosterone.
    Currently available is diol. Again that means no estrogenic conversion prior, but none post-conversion either because 1-test doesn't aromatize.

    (1,4-androstadienediol)or(1,4-androstadienedione). Has no estrogen aromatisation possibility. Assures almost all gains as dry weight and the double bond at the one position which ensures greater oral activity without extra liver toxicity. Another popular steroid and pre-contest hardening agent.

    It is a prohormone, very effective. It is a breakthrough in legal supplementation. When it comes down to it this is a legal steroid.

    (4-AD)is an anabolic testosterone precursor. The main benefits it has over regular andro are: Three times the effectiveness, no conversion to estrodiol or DHT, and it's more anabolic. Those key differences are making 4-AD the new standard in testosterone boosting, anabolic prohormones.

    (5-alpha-dihydrotestosterone) (DHT)
    I dont know much about this product, info was very limited. Has absolutely no estrogenic conversion, 5AA is also a great aromatase inhibitor, meaning it can actually block other compounds you are stacking it with from forming estrogen through aromatisation.

    5-andro is an anabolic testosterone precursor. Has the incredible ability to magnify muscle growth, increase energy, and speed recovery times.

    Alpha-Lipoic Acid:
    Lipoic acid (LA) is a natural antioxidant. It is gradually becoming recognized for its unique abilities in the therapy andprevention of a broad range of diseases. In addition to antioxidant properties, LA helps the body use glucose, meaning it can helppeople with diabetes.

    Amino Acids:
    Amino acids are essential to the human body.
    Bodybuilders can especially benefit from
    supplementing amino acids because they aid in
    repair, growth, and development of muscle tissue.

    Andro can have powerful effects on muscle-building and athletic performance. andro is only one step away from testosterone. By itself, it is not a muscle builder; but after the liver converts it to
    testosterone big gains are usualy the result.

    Antioxidants work in a variety of ways to reduce the effects of free radicals. They can greatly decrease the damage caused by free radicals, stop them from forming to begin with, or "oxidize" them by combining with them and neutralizing their harmful effects through stabilization. The body produces two enzymes on its own to stabilize free radicals.

    Branch Chained Amino Acids. Has Assential and Non Essential Amino acids.

    Boron is required by your body in trace amounts for proper metabolism of calcium, magnesium, and phosphorus. Boron helps brain function, healthy
    bones, and can increase alertness. Boron supplements are especially good for older people. Boron is known to help support proper bone growth. Boron is also useful for people who want to build

    Caffeine is a power and energy accelerant. It's perfect to super energize your body for powerful workouts. This fast-acting substance delivers the right molecular structure to your energy systems for maximum energy and power output. Caffeine much like Ephedra acts to increase mental alertness and neurologically provide the surge you need to maximize your training. Not just a stimulant, this powerful substance reaches deep into the muscle cell to provide lasting power and delaying the onset of muscle fatigue.

    Calcium is known best of all as a promoter of healthy and strong bones. calcium lowers the blood pressure, may reduce stress and definitely improves the quality of sleep. Calcium is also very important in fat metabolization.

    Your body requires carbohydrates to burn fat. Carbohydrates are generally categorized as simple or complex and are more specifically classified as monosaccharides,oligosaccharides, or polysaccharides.

    Used mostly for medical reasons.
    Used widely as an effective treatment for reducing the severity of heartburn symptoms, and can even be effective for speeding weight loss.

    Chitosan has the amazing ability to bind
    fats and cholesterol, encapsulating them before they can be absorbed by the body. Great for dieting.

    Not only does chondroitin provide structure and
    holds water and nutrients, but it allows other molecules to move through cartilage. This is a very important property, as there is no blood
    supply to cartilage. As a result, joint healing is
    greatly increased through supplementation.

    Chromium, a trace mineral, is essential the body's production of insulin. Insulin is a hormone that stabilizes the body's blood sugar level.

    Chromium Picolinate:
    Chromium Picolinate is thought to be the best source of chromium. Chromium is a trace mineral that is essential to the body's production of insulin.

    Scientific studies show that flavones (primarily chrysin) may exert a wide variety of powerful effects. Specifically, studies done in Europe show that after supplementing with chrysin blood serum levels of testosterone went up.

    Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA), is a naturally occurring free fatty acid found mainly in meat and dairy products, in small amounts. CLA is research proven to build muscle, reduce body fat, and induce an optimum cellular environment for improved health.

    Coenzyme Q10:
    Coenzyme Q-10 helps the body convert food into energy in the form of ATP. Coenzymes are substances that facilitate the activities of enzymes. Evidence shows that Coenzyme Q-10 plays a very important role in the production of energy throughout the body. It also has been found to have powerful antioxidant effects, destroying free radicals in the body.

    Bovine colostrum contains many beneficial substances. The most important of these substances are: Immunoglobins, Lactoferin, Proline-Rich Polypeptide, Cytokines and Vitamins. Great when sick and the ability of colostrum to increase IGF-1 levels is well known. IGF-1 helps to lower
    bad cholesterol, and bodyfat. Due to colostrums GH content, supplementation may prove beneficial in the fight against aging.

    Creatine Monohydrate:
    creatine can significantly increase lean muscle mass in just two weeks. It is also responsible for improving performance in high-intensity exercise, increasing energy levels, and speeding up recovery rates.

    Dessicated Liver:
    Dessicated liver helps to increase red blood cell count and stimulate appetite. Anabolic steroids also stimulate appetite and increase red blood cell count.

    Helps slow aging and it has also been shown to help people lose weight, burn fat and build muscle, and increase sex drive.

    Diindolyl Methane:
    It supports the activity of specific enzymes that imporve estrogen metabolism. Scientific research shows diindolylmethane increases the level of "good" estrogens (2-hydroxyestrogen) while reducing the level of "bad" estorgens
    (16-hydroxyestrogen). Promotes healthy testosterone levels, promotes healthy estrogen metabolism, relieves PMS symptoms, promotes fat loss and supports healty breast, cervical, uterine and prostate tissues.

    DMAE supplementation has been known to increase energy levels, as well as alleviate the symptoms typically following the consumption of large quantities of alcohol. Supplementing with DMAE can also offset the symptoms associated with long-term use of antipsychotic drugs. It may also have positive benefits for dreaming and mood

    Ecdysterone is a decent compound to say the least and based on the research, it can definitely help you maximize your genetic potential. Best of all, it's proven safe and effective for men, women, and even teenagers.

    Fights infections, colds, flu, and a variety of
    other maladies.

    Assential and Un-Assential Fatty Acids.

    Egg Protein:
    Great because you dont have to drink eggwhites, they have shakes that taste great.

    Ephedra is a powerful stimulator that increases
    metabolism. Ephedra has been used widely to treat
    many conditions such as the common cold, asthma,
    and congestion of the bronchial tubes.

    Fiber is best known for its ability to induce bowl movements. Although it has been used for thousands of years to treat constipation, fiber is known to enhance health.

    Flax Seed Oil:
    Flax seeds are a great source of fiber, lignans, protein, fat, vitamins, and minerals.

    Folic Acid:
    Folic acid is a water soluble B-vitamin that helps build healthy cells.

    Forskolin has been shown to increase thyroid hormone production as well as stimulate thyroid hormone release.

    GABA, or Gamma-Aminobutryic Acid, is a powerful amino acid. It also helps fat loss.

    Ginko Biloba:
    Improve brain and memory function by enhancing oxygenation, protect the heart and restore blood
    circulation, help preserve general vitality and health, fight common allergic reactions, and correct vision and hearing problems.

    It has been shown to elevate mood, increase energy, and give a positive sense of well being to those who supplement their diets with it. It has been used as a tonic, stimulant, and regenerator for years.

    Helps muscle cells maintain maximum volume by
    preserving their most abundant amino acids glutamine and taurine. Numerous clinical studies have demonstrated the importance of these amino acids and their role in muscle growth, protein synthesis, and anti-proteolysis.

    Glucosamine Sulfate:
    Glucosamine sulfate is a small and simple molecular building block used to repair damage cause by arthritis or to aid body builders and athletes with joint pain by helping to repair and lubricate the cartilage around damaged joints.

    L-glutamine plays a very important role in protein metabolism, and it appears to be a very important nutrient for body builders. When supplemented, it may help body builders reduce the amount of muscle deterioration that occurs because other tissues that need glutamine will not rob the glutamine stored in the muscle cells.

    Green Tea:
    Great for the body, protects skin and helps with illnesses.

    Growth Hormone:
    Human Growth Hormone(HGH) levels decline rapidly after age 30. These HGH levels, along with the related IGF-1 amounts, must be elevated in order to maximize muscular size and growth.
    Human Growth Hormone levels are associated with decreased fat, increased muscle mass, high energy, and increased sex drive. It is HGH that has been found in studies to facilitate the metabolism of fats in the body. HGH is alimagnown for it’s powerful muscle-building effects.

    Metabolic enhancer. Involves thyroid gland.

    Plays a role in the synthesis of muscle tissue. It has the ability to burn fat and build muscle consistently in response to exercise.

    Horney Goat Weed:
    Raises testosterone and improves sex drive and/or sexual needs.

    Inosine is the perfect training companion. It is a natural substance that can help increase the body’s ability to carry oxygen, without effecting its uptake in the lungs, so it can work harder, stronger. Inosine is a purine nucleoside which works with ribose in forming the building blocks of ATP, DNA and RNA. When maximum stimulation is reached Inosine is converted into nutrients used by the body.

    Ionic Whey Protein:
    Whey protein (the highest quality and best form of protein). It provides the body with the necessary building blocks to produce amino acids that are used for building muscle tissue.

    highly anabolic and sought-after steroid-like
    effects of faster muscle growth, recovery, and
    fat-burning, yet avoid the androgenic steroid-like
    side effects (acne, male-pattern baldness,
    prostate enlargement, etc.) has finaly been discovered. This is a great thing.

    Iron is also part of myoglobin, which helps muscle cells store oxygen. Without enough iron, ATP (the fuel the body runs on) cannot be properly synthesized. As a result, some iron-deficient people become fatigued even when their hemoglobin levels are normal.

    Kava Kava:
    Kava is a diverse substance and performs many physiological actions. Kava is known for its ability to induce relaxation.

    Korean Gingseng:
    Improves performance and stamina, as well as reaction times in the elderly. It also is thought to have mild effects on the central nervous system.

    Arginine is necessary for the execution of many physiological processes. These physiological processes include hormone secretion, an increase in growth hormone output, the removal of toxic waste products from the body, and immune system

    L-carnitine transfers long-chain fatty acids, such as triglycerides into mitochondria, where they may be oxidized to produce energy. L-carnitine is a very popular supplement that promotes growth and development. It is also used for fat-burning, increasing energy, and improving resistance to muscle fatigue.

    L-Lysine is a necessary building block for all protein in the body. L-Lysine plays a major role in calcium absorption; building muscle protein; recovering from surgery or sports injuries; and the body's production of hormones, enzymes, and antibodies.

    Taurine is an amino acid. Taurine has several critical functions and can act similarly to creatine in that it expands your cells by helping the muscle cell itself hold more water, increasing cell volume. For a lifter or bodybuilder, this is significant because expanded muscle cells can boost hydration resulting in a higher rate of protein synthesis and bodybuilders will appreciate the increased appearance of muscle fullness.

    L-tyrosine may help athletes avoid overtraining, due to its ability to offset fatigue. Because L-tyrosine is a precursor of Dopamine, supplementing with L-tyrosine may heighten mental alertness, increase feelings of well being, decrease feelings of depression, and offset physical and mental fatigue.

    Licorice Root:
    Every positive attribute of licorice applies to bodybuilders. Anti-inflammatory, antitoxic, digestive aid, anti-oxidant, and adrenal gland support all adds up to huge gains for athletes, weightlifters, and bodybuilders. Licorice has also been found to be supportive of a variety of conditions and ailments.

    Medium chain triglycerides are fatty acids that are more easily digested by the body than other fats. MCT oil is composed of caprylic and capric fatty acids.

    Melatonin may play an essential role in sleeping, disorders, depression, and immune system deficiencies. As light inhibits its production, and darkness stimulates it, melatonin regulates the body's internal clock.

    highly anabolic and sought-after steroid-like
    effects of faster muscle growth, recovery, and
    fat-burning, yet avoid the androgenic steroid-like
    side effects (acne, male-pattern baldness,
    prostate enlargement, etc.) has been an impossible feat until this this came out.

    Mexican Wild Yam:
    Today's athletes use Mexican Wild Yam to reduce inflammation and to alleviate fatigue. Mexican wild yam contains DHEA precursors and has been
    shown to regulate hormone production.

    Micellar Casein:
    Prevents Muscle breakdown. Is an extremely slow digesting and rich protein source that continues
    to feed your muscles.

    Milk Thistle:
    Milk thistle has been used almost exclusively to enhance liver health. It is a very powerful antioxidant, and as such helps to remove toxic elements from the body. When the liver is damaged by alcohol consumption, steroid usage, pollutants, or any other environmental factor, milk thistle helps the liver to generate new liver cells.

    Large Mix of nutrients, which the body needs to work.

    Treats various types of arthritis (including rheumatoid and osteoarthritis), but also in
    other conditions that involve connective tissue degeneration.

    NO2 Nitric Oxide:
    Nitric Oxide controls the circulation of blood, transmits messages between nerve cells, and is a
    mediator of inflammation and is associated with
    the process of feeling pain.

    Working much like its cousin, testosterone, 19-norandrostenedione studies show that
    19-norandrostene may be even better than any
    other legal testosterone precursor because it
    does not carry the same side effects as more
    highly anabolic hormones. Some of the benefits
    of supplementing with 19-norandrostenedione
    include avoiding the effects of DHT problems.

    19-diol latches onto steroid receptors longer than testosterone does. It is frequently preferred over testosterones because it does not have as many androgenic side effects, such as increased body hair growth, deepened voice, and male pattern
    baldness. Studies show that one can sustain nortestosterone levels for up to ten times longer with 19-diol versus some previous products that enhanced testosterone levels.

    OKG treatment decreases muscle protein catabolism and/or increases synthesis, according to the metabolic situation.

    Pantothenic Acid: (Vitamin B5)
    n addition to being involved in the Krebs cycle of energy production, Vitamin B5 is involved in the production of red blood cells and adrenal hormones. The body converts it to a catalyst called coenzyme A. This catalyst is very critical to energy production in the body. Vitamin B5 works with the other B vitamins to help in the ATP making process.

    Potassium is utilized by the autonomic nervous system. Potassium may help reduce muscle soreness
    that results from training. Any deficiency in
    potassium levels may result in decreased strength, and the early onset of exercise induced fatigue. Potassium helps to regulate water balance and is also needed for the synthesis of dietary proteins.

    They are the closest thing to real steroids that are legally available, and the results that people have been getting are quite amazing. Used correctly, they are safe and effective.

    Protein Powders:
    The body needs protein in order to develope muscle mass. Choose wisely.

    Pyruvate not only has phenomenal effects on weight loss by burning fat, but also stimulates energy for higher performance in exercise.

    Ribose, a unique, 5-carbon sugar that occurs naturally in all living cells forms the carbohydrate portion of DNA and RNA, the building blocks of life. Ribose is also the sugar that begins the metabolic process for production of adenosine triphosphate (or ATP). ATP is the major
    source of energy used by cells including muscle tissue for normal function.

    SAMe has been widely recognized as an effective way to treat osteoarthritis, depression, fibromyalgia, and liver conditions. It is used by the body to repair joints, produce neurotransmitters and it has been shown to be as effective as some antidepressant medications.

    Saw Palmetto:
    Many studies have been done that confirm its
    beneficial effects in treating benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). BPH is a condition where the
    prostate gland may grow from the size of a
    walnut to as large as a small orange. Although
    this condition is not malignant, it can cause a
    blockage of the urethra and require surgery.
    Specifically, Saw Palmetto has been found to
    prevent the binding of dihydrotestosterone (DHT)
    to androgen receptors by inhibiting the conversion of testosterone into DHT. DHT appears to be a major factor in the onset of BP="0"
    As an antioxidant, selenium provides protection from alcohol induced oxidative stress, thus helping to prevent alcohol-induced liver injury, and reduces oxidative stress that leads to DNA damage. Selenium has also been shown to reduce the damage inflicted on the hypocampus by the excitotoxin quinolinic acid.

    Shark Cartilage:
    It could help prevent tumor-based cancer.

    Contains plant sterols which appear to stimulate the body's metabolic processes. Smilax Officinalis is believed to augment an athlete's performance during training and other situations whent he body is pushed to the max.

    Soy Protein:
    Soy protein provides a healthy way to get
    non-animal protein into your diet. It is, natural and can have a plethora of healthy effects on the body. It is ideal for high protein/low carb diets.

    St Johns Wort:
    It has been used widely to support conditions of anxiety, depression, herpes virus, infection, and minor injuries, as well as ear infections.

    Stevia is used widely as a sweetner, in place of artificial sweetners like aspartame. It has been used for thousands of years, and is today often used by diabetics and people with hyperglycemia, due to its ability to regulate blood sugar levels.

    Suma Extract:
    Sumax is used by world athletes to assist them in their training and development. Sumax may promote
    endurance and help the body to adapt to external stresses.

    advantages of transdermal drug delivery systems speak for themselves and include avoidance of side effects, avoidance of the gastrointestinal tract and hepatic first-pass biotransformation and metabolism, control of absorption, availability of multiple skin sites to avoid local irritation and toxicity, and improved compliance. The main type of transdermal that a bodybuilder would be interested in is one that contains prohormones. These help raise your testosterone naturally without any known negative side effects.

    Tribulus terrestris is a testosterone enhancer.
    Studies show that it works very well when stacked with DHEA and androstenedione.

    Vanadyl Sulfate:
    Athletes have long used vanadyl sulfate to increase their performance. It is believed to play a role in regulating the body and lowering blood sugar levels, similar to insulin.

    Vitamin A:
    Vitamin A is required for synthesis of photoreceptor pigments of rods and cones, the integrity of skin and mucosae, normal tooth and bone development; normal reproductive capabilities; and has important antioxidant properties which translate into anticancer and antiatherosclerosis effects. It helps form the substance rhodopsin, which is necessary for good vision (particularly night vision). Vitamin A
    also helps keep the membranes, inner linings, tissues, the skin, and eyes resistant to infection and in good health.

    Vitamin B:
    B-vitamins have many anabolic properties separately and have often been the subject of supplementation. The vitamin B-complex refers to all of the known essential water-soluble vitamins
    except for vitamin C.

    Vitamin C:
    There are numerous benefits that can be attributed to Vitamin C, including strengthening of bones and connective tissue, aiding in the healing of wounds, and increasing the performance of the immune system.

    Vitamin D:
    Vitamin D is used to prevent bone diseases, but
    it is also a highly anabolic hormone.It can regulate the phosphorus balance in the body and helps to maintain the heart muscle and protects nerves from deterioration. Vitamin B is classified as a steroid hormone.

    Vitamin E:
    Vitamin E scavenges the body for harmful free radicals and annihilates them. By destroying cellular membranes, free radicals are responsible for a variety of health problems including Alzheimer's disease, atherosclerosis, cancer, diabetes, muscular dystrophy, Parkinson's disease, and rheumatoid arthritis. Vitamin E defends all cell membranes in the body from oxidative stress, promoting better health and immunity from illness, while increasing virility.

    Whey Protein:
    It provides the body with the necessary building blocks to produce amino acids that are used for building muscle tissue.

    White Willow:
    White willow has been used successfully as a
    natural alternative to synthetic salicylic products because of its ability to act as an
    antiinflamatory, its effectivness in treating fevers, colds, headaches and infections, its ability to relieve pain associated with osteoarthritis, and its ability to relieve general pain.

    Research shows it is a vasodilator, which means
    that it increases blood flow to the extremities
    and appendages. In other words, it can treat
    male impotence quite effectively, as well as
    increase the sex drive (libido) in men and in

    Any bodybuilder looking to gain strength, increase athletic performance, and muscle mass should consider taking ZMA.
  2. Ceaze

    Ceaze Moderator

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    all the prohormones listed are illegal
  3. scent of a wookie

    scent of a wookie OT Supporter

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    might be a tad bit exaggerated :coolugh:
  4. darkostoj


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    i just copied & pasted from another site :noes:
  5. Aez

    Aez New Member

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    This may be an individual difference but CLA made me feel like dog shit, I could'nt think straight at all and I was getting headaches all the time. I did'nt even run a weeks course cos of that, I've still got the softgel's in my room a 500 bottle full :hsd:

    I'm sure I read somewhere that CLA is technically a Trans Fat, anyone got any info on this?
  6. Ceaze

    Ceaze Moderator

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    the human studies on CLA aren't good....i would not use it.
  7. j_regel

    j_regel Fucilli Jerry

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    hmmm, thats kinda weird I've never had any side effects from CLA or heard of anyone who did. Anyway, CLA is not a trans fat, its an essential fatty acid
  8. Ceaze

    Ceaze Moderator

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    Lipids. 2003 Aug;38(8):805-11.

    Supplementation with CLA: isomer incorporation into serum lipids and effect on body fat of women.

    Petridou A, Mougios V, Sagredos A.

    Department of Physical Education and Sport Science, Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Thessaloniki 541 24, Greece.

    Animal studies have suggested that CLA, a natural component of meat and dairy products, may confer beneficial effects on health. However, human studies using supplementation with CLA have produced contradictory results. The aim of the present study was to further investigate the effect of CLA supplementation on human body fat, serum leptin, and serum lipids, as well as the incorporation of CLA isomers into serum lipids classes. Sixteen young healthy nonobese sedentary women received 2.1 g of CLA (divided equally between the cis,trans-9,11 and trans,cis-10,12 isomers) daily for 45 d and placebo for 45 d in a randomized double-blind crossover design. Body fat was estimated (by measurement of skinfold thickness at 10 sites), and blood was sampled at the beginning, middle, and end of the entire intervention period; an additional blood sample was obtained 2 wk thereafter. No significant differences in energy, carbohydrate, lipid, or protein intake existed between the CLA and placebo intake periods. No significant differences were found in body fat or serum leptin, TAG, total cholesterol, HDL-cholesterol, and alanine aminotransferase between CLA and placebo. The CLA isomer content of serum TAG, phospholipids, and total lipids increased 2-5 times with CLA supplementation (P < 0.05). In contrast, the CLA content of cholesteryl esters did not change significantly. The period of 2 wk after the end of CLA supplementation was sufficient for its washout from serum lipids. These data indicate that supplementation with 2.1 g of CLA daily for 45 d increased its levels in blood but had no effect on body composition or the lipidemic profile of nonobese women.

    PMID: 14577658

    J Lipid Res. 2003 Dec;44(12):2234-41. Epub 2003 Aug 16.

    Efficacy and safety of dietary supplements containing CLA for the treatment of obesity: evidence from animal and human studies.

    Larsen TM, Toubro S, Astrup A.

    Department of Human Nutrition, Center for Advanced Food Studies, The Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University, DK-1958 Frederiksberg C, Denmark. [email protected]

    Dietary supplements containing conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) are widely promoted as weight loss agents available over the counter and via the Internet. In this review, we evaluate the efficacy and safety of CLA supplementation based on peer-reviewed published results from randomized, placebo-controlled, human intervention trials lasting more than 4 weeks. We also review findings from experimental studies in animals and studies performed in vitro. CLA appears to produce loss of fat mass and increase of lean tissue mass in rodents, but the results from 13 randomized, controlled, short-term (<6 months) trials in humans find little evidence to support that CLA reduces body weight or promotes repartitioning of body fat and fat-free mass in man. However, there is increasing evidence from mice and human studies that the CLA isomer trans-10, cis-12 may produce liver hypertrophy and insulin resistance via a redistribution of fat deposition that resembles lipodystrophy. CLA also decreases the fat content of both human and bovine milk. In conclusion, although CLA appears to attenuate increases in body weight and body fat in several animal models, CLA isomers sold as dietary supplements are not effective as weight loss agents in humans and may actually have adverse effects on human health.

    PMID: 1292321
  9. lif

    lif New Member

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    Interesting about CLA... those studies basically just tore it apart.

    edit: Ceaze where do you do most of your searches, pub med? Thats what I use at least...
  10. j_regel

    j_regel Fucilli Jerry

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    on the same note though, you can find several studies which coin CLA as a "wonder" and others where findings weren't so extreme on way or the other
  11. Ceaze

    Ceaze Moderator

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    pubmed or sometimes google scholar search
  12. 0.6gpa

    0.6gpa New Member

    Apr 21, 2005
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    what can you kneegroh's tell me about DHEA
  13. blam

    blam New Member

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    I seriously doubt their are SEVERAL HUMAN studies showing that CLA is a "wonder". Rat studies have shown neat stuff but pretty well every human study has shown no results.
  14. Sgt. Ownage

    Sgt. Ownage you gon' be just fiiiine

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    cla is gay and overpriced
  15. lif

    lif New Member

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    Reason enough for me not to use it
  16. Elfling

    Elfling New Member

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    Just a quick glance at that list and I can tell you most of it is bullshit.

    "Your body requires carbohydrates to burn fat" nope

    " Echinacea:
    Fights infections, colds, flu, and a variety of
    other maladies." current research says not rly

    lots more like that. I'd throw that list out :o
  17. Elfling

    Elfling New Member

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    Bah, don't use Wiki for anything reliable. Pubmed has the stuff about echinacea..I'll look for it.
  18. Maestro Nobones

    Maestro Nobones Great Job! - GLAD DADS CREW

    Jun 6, 2004
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    in austin at the studio or the dojo
    if you find more stuff relating to echinasia and auto-immune disorders lemme know, I should watch out for that :eek3:
  19. DCyamaha

    DCyamaha O-line found

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    anytown, usa
    no fish oil in there?
  20. KingGargantuan

    KingGargantuan ♖♘♗♕♔♗♘♖

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    those descriptions are seriously lacking in information
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