CAR Detail Crew. Looking for a replacement for Beadmaker. Suggests on similar products?

DeezNortz

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I love beadmaker because it provides some protection and helps w the drying process. so as long as i wash a couple times a month i've always got protection on the paint.

however on my wife's newish car (which is black) it's leaving blotches all over the place.

Looking for suggestions on another product for basic protection for a DD.

@Scottwax
 

amill94

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This has been my go to "drying aid" for 2 years or more now. You can use it on all exterior surfaces and it adds great shine and hydrophobic properties with a few months of protection. I use it after every wash and it's been great. It can be a little streaky if you use too much on the glass.

 
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DeezNortz

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This has been my go to "drying aid" for 2 years or more now. You can use it on all exterior surfaces and it adds great shine and hydrophobic properties with a few months of protection. I use it after every wash and it's been great. It can be a little streaky if you use too much on the glass.

Nice. Many thanks.
 
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amill94

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Nice. Many thanks.
A little goes a long way. I use a blower to get most of the water off the car but leave some on each panel. I'll give one or two sprays to the drying towel and then 2 mists on the larger panels like the hood, rear hatch, roof. After you do the larger sections and move to the doors and glass you really don't need much. Sometimes I don't even spray any on the glass if I've already done a few panels.
 
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DeezNortz

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A little goes a long way. I use a blower to get most of the water off the car but leave some on each panel. I'll give one or two sprays to the drying towel and then 2 mists on the larger panels like the hood, rear hatch, roof. After you do the larger sections and move to the doors and glass you really don't need much. Sometimes I don't even spray any on the glass if I've already done a few panels.
Copy that. i'll give it a try. i'm a loyal fan of beadmaker but it gets blotchy as fuu on dark color cars.
 

Scottwax

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This is what I use. It works well especially on top of a decent ceramic coating

Seems to me if a coating needs a topper (like Ceramic Pro does) it really isn't a coating.

No idea of compatibility with other coatings. ONR for Opti-Coat seems to work fine on everything.
 
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Scottwax

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I love beadmaker because it provides some protection and helps w the drying process. so as long as i wash a couple times a month i've always got protection on the paint.

however on my wife's newish car (which is black) it's leaving blotches all over the place.

Looking for suggestions on another product for basic protection for a DD.

@Scottwax
Put real protection on the paint like Hyper Seal.
 
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Smahatma

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Seems to me if a coating needs a topper (like Ceramic Pro does) it really isn't a coating.

No idea of compatibility with other coatings. ONR for Opti-Coat seems to work fine on everything.
Is that why optimum is marketing hyperseal as a maintenance topper for opticoat?

 

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not a drying aid but i saw this ceramic spray on slickdeals the other day... gonna try it out on the jeep this weekend and see how long it lasts since the waifu still has to drive to work everyday and i'm too lazy / it's too fucking hot to do a real ceramic coat.

seems to be pretty decent.


 
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Scottwax

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Is that why optimum is marketing hyperseal as a maintenance topper for opticoat?

It isn't necessary. With Ceramic Pro, if you don't get the 6 months maintenance you lose your warranty. There's not yearly maintenance required for Paint Guard, Opti-Coat or Opti-Coat Pro. With Pro 3, to get the lifetime warranty, it needs a yearly decontamination (which around here really isn't necessary) so if you pass on that, the warranty is 7 years.

People with coatings still like to put stuff on them for some reason. So Optimum put a somewhat diluted version of Gloss Coat into a bottle so people can put something over the coating that won't affect the dirt shedding ability of a coating.

What they should be doing is marketing it as a stand alone sealant, its really good in that regard.
 

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Seems to me if a coating needs a topper (like Ceramic Pro does) it really isn't a coating.

No idea of compatibility with other coatings. ONR for Opti-Coat seems to work fine on everything.

Depends on what's being used as the maintenance product. Most coatings now have a specific "booster" designed to work in conjunction with the coating to maximize performance.
 

Scottwax

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Depends on what's being used as the maintenance product. Most coatings now have a specific "booster" designed to work in conjunction with the coating to maximize performance.
With Optimum, other than to get the lifetime warranty with Pro 3, all you are required to do is regularly wash the car. Pro 3 requires a yearly decon for lifetime, otherwise it's a 7 year warranty.

On my own cars I just do ONR washes. Doing this for a living, I want my own cars to be as easy as possible.
 

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With Optimum, other than to get the lifetime warranty with Pro 3, all you are required to do is regularly wash the car. Pro 3 requires a yearly decon for lifetime, otherwise it's a 7 year warranty.

On my own cars I just do ONR washes. Doing this for a living, I want my own cars to be as easy as possible.

I don't consider spending 5 minutes wiping down a vehicle occasionally after a wash a particularly arduous endeavour. With Modesta, the maintenance wash system keeps the coating decontaminated and functioning properly.
 

Scottwax

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I don't consider spending 5 minutes wiping down a vehicle occasionally after a wash a particularly arduous endeavour. With Modesta, the maintenance wash system keeps the coating decontaminated and functioning properly.
It's no big deal, I agree. And that's why Optimum added Hyper Seal. Just saying it isn't necessary to keep the warranty in force. But when some coating companies say that they have to come out every 6 months at around $375 (seems to be the average) to keep the warranty it just seems that maybe that company's coating maybe isn't so durable.
 

amill94

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We only offer BC-04 now but they are both amazing. Who's doing your install?
Ben at Motorcar Paint Protection. We've talked about him before. He did my wife's XC90 in XPEL and Nanolex a few years back. He worked with Phil at Detailer's Domain quite a bit and still does some projects with him. He's using their plastic and glass coatings as well as BC-06 which I guess is applied with a spray gun to the Bilstein shocks on the truck since they are so visible.
 

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Ben at Motorcar Paint Protection. We've talked about him before. He did my wife's XC90 in XPEL and Nanolex a few years back. He worked with Phil at Detailer's Domain quite a bit and still does some projects with him. He's using their plastic and glass coatings as well as BC-06 which I guess is applied with a spray gun to the Bilstein shocks on the truck since they are so visible.
Ok right I remember you talking about him now. Didn't know he jumped on board Modesta.
 

amill94

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Ok right I remember you talking about him now. Didn't know he jumped on board Modesta.
I think he did in the last two years. He used to use Nanolex. Now it's Modesta and XPEL's coating options. I figured for the extra $600 going Modesta was a no brainer. Pretty sure the XPEL stuff is made by the same lab as the Adams and other do it yourself coatings.
 

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