Discussion in 'OT Technology' started by SocialBrokerz, Feb 13, 2008.
or did you just learn it by just going on the internet itself?
I learned literally everything I know through google and boardreader.com. Mostly asp, mysql, xml/web services, access macros etc.
We had some pretty complex supply chain issues at work and couldn't really afford to outsource (small e-commerce shop, I was in High School at the time). So me being the html genius I was , I decided I'd figure it out myself (ended up being a 1.5 yr project). It's now a multi-million $/yr site, still running on all the same back end framework I wrote.
These days, with google, it's like everyone's an engineer
I did a bachelor of business with majors in software development and marketing, so I guess I kinda did.
^ I agree that it's way too easy for people to program a site, but it's always been that way. I was copying html source code in 1997 when I was in HS.
I did not go to school for web site programming/design/marketing/etc...
My first step towards truly learning was the book, Sam's Teach yourself HTML in 24 hours. I read the whole book in 4 hours.
I really learned a lot of CSS through the book, More Eric Myer on CSS, then CSS Zen Garden by Dave Shae.
And that's it. There's a lot of practicing, and helping others to expand your abilities. I learned PHP from www.php.net, and I barely know shit about SQL database management, or table design, but I know enough to make a shitty flat table for a guest book, or comments. That's about it.
I never plan to use my knowledge of "webmsatering" to make money, so I will never spend money on school for it. I just like having it as a hobby, and leaving it alone for 1-2 years when I get bored, and jumping back in when I get excited about it.
What do you do now? I'm going back to school to get my bachelors, need to finish up one more semester at community college to transfer.
I've been following the UNC course outline from Computer Science:Bachelor of Arts so far. Think that degree's as good as any? Pretty sure I want to be a dba (I guess I technically already am one ).
learning as i go, i started with helping run porn sites to running my own, now i am trying to branch out into other shit, which will be a stretch, becasuse marketing and traffic and what not will be different to get instead of porn traffic
I guess im a jack of all trades but most of my jobs are systems analysis and design they usually end up written in PHP/MySQL sometimes written by me usually some russians who code for alot cheaper, I also admin a few groups of servers. My advice follow the DBA thing and get comfortable with networks distributed data systems are going off now.
You would actually be suprised, alot of the same stuff works outside of the adult market and to be honest the adult industry is pretty inovative with its marketting.
still learning over time, once i start really coding some mroe advanced shit ill take classes. but CSS n HTML; you dont need a class for that, but a class on style would be nice..... albeit unnecessary.
From one porn guy to another... things really aren't THAT different. With mainstream, you just gotta do basically the same you do with porn with other mainstream sites.
Running porn sites DID teach me a lot about marketing, though, moreso than any mainstream stuff I've ever ran. I'd say you're actually ahead of the curve.
Learned everything on my own for the most part.
I taught myself what I do know. I'm more of an SEO/marketing guy now, though. I used to be able to do PHP and shit rather well, but not anymore. Haven't really tried.
There was an article on shoemoney.com (I think it was with Melissa Midwest ) about the similarities in porn and mainstream stuff. Pretty cool site
not with were i get traffic from it is not the same
tgps, adult forums and adult banner trades and what not will not work with the new sites, yes the ideas are the same, but just gotta find places that will help me with traffic
plus i have been in sales for over 12 years, so that helps with marketing and promoting, and understanding marketing and packaging your product and selling it
I am enrolled now to become one. Work is paying for all of it.
learned on my own ... got military to pay for school now ... Computer Science major
anytime I see a site that says, "contact the webmaster" I and click away
So, I guess I did, but I never got the teaching.
The interesting thing about the web is that you learn faster at your own pace via open source than any school can teach you. Most curricula are outdated as is, and as one of my professors covered a week ago: on the web, 3 months shows as much change as one year in the "real world," so half way through a class you might be behind the times already.
google taught me everything i know
edit: and they pay me too ..works out kinda well eh
learned everything by myself at like 14. Started off by using templates, and learning how they were coded.
Then went to designing with photoshop.
Then went into notepad.
I started in HS doing tripod style shit on my own (basic HTML). Went to school for more of a graphics type major but realized partial color blindness didn't work well with 'design' so I went more programming out of school.
Went to college for Contemporary Media and Journalism. Got an advanced degree in Marketing. I picked up a few books on Web Design and Digital Media, I liked what I read so I started to pursue.
5 years removed from College, I am the Corporate Webmaster for a Fortune 500 Company.
Almost everyone I know ends up doing something that has absolutely nothing to do with their degree. I kind of get the feeling that most jobs could care less what your degree is in, just that you have one.
I'm going back to finish mine, not to learn anything, just for that one line on my resume . There's nothing they could teach me that I couldn't learn myself 10x faster.