Discussion in 'On Topic' started by pew pew pew, Jan 23, 2009.
is your psychiatrist obligated to admit you if you say you had been thinking about suicide?
No. You should follow instruction however and do your best to work with the physician to find away to improve your quality of life. If you trust the physician, then it makes it easier to do this.
Only times they are legally obligated to do anything are if you threaten the safety or well-being of others. E.g. I killed or am going to kill someone.
It's definitely best to let him know since it can dramatically change therapy options.
im functional now though just miserable. i have a job, go to school, all that stuff but can't find a solid treatment for my problems... its been going like this for a long time through a lot of people who have been in school a long time. i never said anything about what i was asking about because i dont want that stigma surrounding me... my insurance is already about 4x what it should be because ive been treated for depression and stuff... the more i say the worse things get it seems
You can in Australia. For 72 hours at least
It depends how far you're going into the plan. It's important to talk about it because it affects what meds should be given to you and what the person who treats you should look into as the treatment goes.
Yeah, but no shrink is going to do that if they are any good in my experience
I think the most important thing here is to not hold back from telling your doctor that you're suicidal.
Secondly, I've never heard of anyone being admitted for saying they were suicidal. If anything, the doctor will move more quickly to help stop the suicidal thoughts.
What is the underpinning causes to the depression (Triggers)? Is there anything you know of that's contributing to drive the symptoms?
i first went in in HS about 5-6 years ago but couldn't really pin down the "trigger" and started on the usual regimen of SSRIs and then ended up getting off effexor (withdraw sucked)... i did well for like 2 years or so in college, took some st. johns wort and everything was ok. then my mom got cancer, kind of relapsed a little then but still no meds. then a year later my dad moved in with me (i lived alone in our family home) when he retired and shortly after i found out he was cheating on my mom with a stripper (buying her diamond rings and an 08 xterra ) and spending $3k a night on escorts in DC... things started to spiral then and started seeing a therapist again at that point. straightened out, then i met a girl shortly after that and fell for her since i was in a vulnerable time emotionally and she dumped me to be with her ex but we kept this unhealthy random hookup codependent thing all this time and i finally put my foot down and just stopped talking to her (havent seen her since before new years) i have been on wellbutrin since the dumpage (about this time last year). my parents "reconciled" and my dad was allowed to move back into the family house and he lived here for a few months before i said i had it and moved out to an apt myself... so i guess my relationship with my dad/parents coming to a head was really bad and finding a girl that was an escape and made me happy even though it wasnt a good relationship, it just made me feel good then not having that to fall on sucked. so now im living alone now and things just kind of suck. i cant really remember the last time i was happy outside of that sucky relationship.
That helps explain a lot of what's driving these symptoms. More counseling or activities that help you to work through these prior events are probably needed. You're probably predisposed to the depression by the situational events going on around you.
It is probably overwhelming in a chronic sense. Keep looking back and seeing whether you think anything prior to HS was also going on.
yeah its been going on since day one. my parents had a crap relationship from day one but never got a divorce, my dad never spent any time with me, my sister was like an emotional robot and dealt with it totally opposite of me and never talks about it and refused to have one conversation about what my dad did after it happened. she just wanted to pretend it didnt exist. i mean i could feel bad for myself all day long. my parents would never let me have a dog, they never came to my basketball games, they didnt buy me any christmas presents this year.. whatever, lol they never beat me and i was never hungry so i can only be so bitter..
ive seen therapists and psychiatrists but its like i feel good for a while then they 'wear off'... theres no lasting effects to counseling for me really. the last one helped some but now its like a brick wall so i stopped. so yeah in a chronic sense, my past has stuff wrong with it and i acknowledge it but it doesnt really improve my mood. i watched house last night and they did ECT on some guy and he lost all his memory prior to the treatment and sometimes i feel like there's nothing extremely redeeming about my life id really miss too much to forget everything.
the only thing that scares me about just killing myself is failing at that too and ending up a vegetable.
In a situation like yours Suicidal feelings should be talked about and the situations driving them too. What you're feeling seems pretty normal to me when viewed in context to what you've experienced.
You're entire world was upside down, it's impossible to walk away from all that untouched.
I think what I would recommend is ongoing medication with therapy in combination. That should take the edge off and help move you thru more of this so these feelings dissipate. Continuing therapy even when things appear calm is key. I think you logically understand what's happening to you but talking about things takes time to work out. Consciously and rationally acknowledging something doesn't alleviate the underlying effects, it has to be worked thru further. It's a messy process.