I dont know if "written off" is the best way to put it, but any family members that you have lost hope in? My older brother has always been sort of out of control. Now, Im not suprised by any bad news I hear about him (through my mom). Over the last 5 or 6 years, he has turned into a full blown junkie. Meth is all he is about and nothing else matters. He is homeless and been in and out of jail who knows how many times. I think if I was to hear he died, I might be relieved. Not relieved that he is gone, but I dont know if anyone should live like that for years and years. He doesnt want to be sober. Is that fucked up?