TECH Does anyone know what the "problems" are with Vista that Apple keeps talking about?

White Stormy

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Sep 17, 2002
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I've been using it 2 years and the only one I've experienced is UAC.. which was intentional, and is still less annoying than the Mac version.

So :hsugh:
 
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White Stormy

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Sep 17, 2002
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And they're ragging on Microsoft for spending money on advertising? Before this summer Apple's advertising budget was probably 10,000 times higher than Microsoft's.
 

Peyomp

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Jan 11, 2002
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I've been using it 2 years and the only one I've experienced is UAC.. which was intentional, and is still less annoying than the Mac version.

So :hsugh:

I'm not sure what you mean, but there is no equivalent of UAC on a Mac.
 

Skankin'

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Sep 3, 2007
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Vista is alright, but they should be moving in other directions than what they are in now.
 

Peyomp

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Jan 11, 2002
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:ugh:

whenever I try to install a program on the mac it makes me confirm that I'm an admin by typing in my password.. even though my account doesn't have a password.

You do have to enter a password to install some programs. But that is hardly what people complained about with UAC.
 
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White Stormy

White Stormy

Take that, subspace!
Sep 17, 2002
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You do have to enter a password to install some programs. But that is hardly what people complained about with UAC.

every program I've ever tried to install on the Mac has required me to confirm that I'm an Admin by entering my password..

and even more annoying is that half of them were already installed on the computer, but it wouldn't let me use them, and when I tried to install them it would ask me to confirm that I was an admin and then just fail without telling me why it had failed. And since you can't change install paths on the Mac, it means that I just can't use/install the program AT ALL even though I'm a fucking administrator without getting the superuser, who is out of town, to fork over his god damned password so I can put the application in the "Shared" folder.

That is the stupidest shit I have ever seen.
 

dorkultra

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its alright. troubleshooting over the phone with someone on vista is not as easy as it was with winxp. namely getting to the network connections, sure you can type in ncpa.cpl...but try telling that to some 90 year old guy that can't get online

also, why did they have to drop outlook express and come out with windows mail?

vista uses quite a bit more resources than winxp. i found that i get better frame rates on hi-def trailers with winxp than i do with vista
i've found that some hardware might not work so well with vista. i have a gigabit card that has the right drivers, no conflicts...but will not grab an address no matter what. it works just fine with winxp

my old antivirus does not work with my vista machine
i use vista home premium exclusively for it's media center. i have 2 analog cards for cable and an hdhomerum to grab clearqam/atsc
it does boot up quick for me, actually quicker than my winxp system does

i think a lot of people like the look of vista. i'll admit that it is pretty, but i would choose osx anyday
 

dissonance

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May 23, 2006
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My biggest complaint is simply a lack of support for old software... not really MS's fault though.
 

mobbarley

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every program I've ever tried to install on the Mac has required me to confirm that I'm an Admin by entering my password..

and even more annoying is that half of them were already installed on the computer, but it wouldn't let me use them, and when I tried to install them it would ask me to confirm that I was an admin and then just fail without telling me why it had failed. And since you can't change install paths on the Mac, it means that I just can't use/install the program AT ALL even though I'm a fucking administrator without getting the superuser, who is out of town, to fork over his god damned password so I can put the application in the "Shared" folder.

That is the stupidest shit I have ever seen.
'superuser' error
 

critter783

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Jul 15, 2005
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I've been using Vista for two years also. I like it. All the problems that Apple is bringing up in their commercials are either half-truths, like the driver issues, since they've mostly been fixed since the end of the beta testing, or they're just not verifiable as fact, like "people are doing anything they can to get Vista off their machines."
As for UAC, I leave it on. I like to see when a program on my machine wants to take an administrative action, and it doesn't take much effort to click "OK" when the security screen pops up. I can see how some people find it annoying, but in my experience, those are the people that don't follow security best practices anyway.
 

lightsareout

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Aug 19, 2006
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I have not had a problem with vista either. The only times that i see a problem arising is if you are on a computer not built for vista with newer and faster components
 

Doomsday

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srsly,... its as if apple isn't advertising their product anymore. the ads are there just to bash MS
 

Peyomp

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Jan 11, 2002
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I have to say that I liked MS hitting back. I mean fuck MS, but at least they put up a fight with the diversity commercials.
 

5Gen_Prelude

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Mar 14, 2000
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Well Mac doesn't even know how to fight properly. On one hand they're saying that you can run Windows on their machines, on the other they're saying it sucks. They just can't get past the point that a PC!=Windows because they sell both the hardware and OS themselves
 

Smutty

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Nov 15, 2006
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I think the new one bitching about advertising is ironic seeing how there's a new let's bash Vista commercial every week.
 

Peyomp

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Jan 11, 2002
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Well Mac doesn't even know how to fight properly. On one hand they're saying that you can run Windows on their machines, on the other they're saying it sucks. They just can't get past the point that a PC!=Windows because they sell both the hardware and OS themselves

Look at whats happened to Apple's market share. They know how to fight properly.
 

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