Discussion in 'Entertainment' started by Dalius, Jul 5, 2004.
But seriously, how can people stand this? All the guys in these bands look the same, it's like....
Guitarist: Shit, do these tears look real?
Frontman: Oh fuck man, we're out of black clothing and hair dye! Hurry, we gotta buy some more or we will lose scene points!
it's teenage-i-hate-my-parents-and-can't-cope-with-my-suburban-life-so-please-listen-to-me-whine-about-it music. it absolutely sucks.
Yep, emo is officially the gayest form of music known to man, along with screamo/fashion core and all poseur crap.
ya, your right. NICKELBACK FOREVER...
There are a few bands that get thrown in with emo/scremo/emocore or whatever that i really like coheed & cambria, cursive, blood brothers, thursday. Other than that most is :ghey: and that matchbox romance song is just terrible. (ive never heard it, but those are the cornist lyrics ever. sounds like and 8th grader wrote them for his poetry assignment.)
Friend of mine asked me to go to local show the other night, so I said yes and we headed to downtown Dallas. Ended up watching a 3 hour Emo show
Fuck EMO! In fact i say we all stop using that word and ignore that whole slice of music/culture and hopefully it will shrivel up and die.
The reason why you like this bands is because they;re not actually emo, they're more "emocore". They fall into an incredibly talented cataegory with bands like At the Drive-in, Mars Volta and Sparta. I agree with you on the bands you named, gj.
I say we make a new music genre called "Doesn't Suck" and put all these bands into it.
Or, get rid of genres cuz they suck and labelling music is fucked. Unless they label themselves, like EMOOOO
Oh christ, this whole crap again. Its like 4 years of stupid highschool music arguements in a fucking message board thread. Give it the fuck up already. You don't like a kind of music, keep it to your god damn self and don't listen to it. And in my own opinion, I think its kind of short-sighted to say that a whole genre of music sucks. Say a band sucks, fine. I don't personally like most rap, but I wouldn't say that all rap sucks because there are some rappers that aren't too bad. Same with country, and just about every type of music.
The first problem with this whole thread is that the title is "Emo sucks" and then the first post is Matchbook Romance lyrics. They aren't even a fucking Emo band you moron. You want emo, go look up a Jade Tree Records catalogue. Go listen to bands like Coheed & Cambria, Burning Airlines, Jets To Brazil, The Promise Ring, and stuff like that. Group Matchbook Romance in with the new pop-punk bands. Lyrics don't make the music genre. There are a lot of things that go into it. Things like the actual fucking music. A lot of bands sing about love, chicks, and shit like that. Hell Country music practically was built around singing about being broken-hearted. So are we going to start calling Tobey Keith an emo band now? Didn't think so.
And one more thing, its simply mind-blowing that you name ATDI, The Mars Volta, and Sparta as 3 bands who are good. I'm not arguing that they are good bands. But The Mars Volta and Sparta were created when ATDI bankrupted their record label, Grand Royal Records (the Beastie Boys owned label) and split into two bands. Those two bands amazingly enough were The Mars Volta and Sparta. So pretty much, you think one group of musicians is good. Congrats.
If you don't like the thread, GTFO. And don't start going all "OMG REEL EMO IS FROM DA 80Z LOL". I don't give a shit. It's whiney. Emo has gone from emotionally charged punk to whiney fucking shit.
he's absolutly right though.
emo is dashboard, spill canvas, etc. emotionally charged punk? shouldn't all music be emotionally charged. no one considered that emo.
matchbook romance = poppunk, like tbs, nfg, yellowcard, etc. they're probably one of the best in their genre anyway, even though that doesn't say much.
regardless, like he said, lyrics don't make the band/genre. how you say it is usually more important than what you say.
I always thought real emo was like early 80s/late 80s Washing, DC stuff like Rites of Spring.
hell, you could say 'real emo' was the supremes & beatles & all sorts of things from way back in the day.
life of agony was kinda emo in the late 80's as well.
i thought emo was a sesame street character.
The ignorance in this thread astounds me. Every single type of music should be emotional with very very very few exception. Music is an art form. Art is a means to convey a feeling or emotion. Hence, music should be emotional. Even music with no words, if you have half a brain, you can tell that the composition is made to bring about a certain feeling in the audience. That's the definition and reason for art to exist. And pretty much the main reason for art to exist.
If you don't like a music genre, then fine. But no one gives a rats ass if you hate emo, country, rap, raggae, two-tone, 3rd wave ska, bluegrass, metalcore, death metal, screamo, me farting on a snare drum, jazz, etc. I DON'T CARE! People who write shit about ":insert music type: sucks" should drink the cyanide koolaid. They do it to get a rise out of people (and yes I realize I'm helping them succeed right now). Its stupid, immature, and just retarded. I don't care that you think something I may or may not enjoy "sucks". I'm sure there is a lot of things you do that I don't personally enjoy. Take having sex with animals. Maybe its your cup of tea. But its not mine. I'm not gonna start a whole fucking thread about it though!
In closing, whatever you think emo is or isn't, is just fine with me. But before you start spouting verbal feces around on an internet message board, it might be a good idea to maybe learn a little bit about what you are talking about. Its just a thought.
News flash buddy, this is a message board! You know? Where people share and express opinions, on many subjects including there musical tastes. If you can't take people talking about how much they hate emo on the internet then i'd say you need psychological help asap. Here's a link that describes emo and its history here .
Yes emo used to be a form of emotional hardcore punk, but it isn't anymore, fact. Its an awful, commercialised genre full of clone bands that possess no talent other the ability to sing in an extremely whiney voice about their latest heart rending break-up. You said that all music should be emotional and I agree, but that doesn't make it emo does it? Emo is called as such because the emotion is one of the main facets of the music, so I really don't see what point you were trying to make there exactly.
I agree that older punk-emo had its moments, but modern emo is trash and I simply can't stand to listen to any of those pussy whipped kids that all look and dress the same, whining on and on! I suppose the closest thing to old school emo nowdays would be emocore metal
My problem with this whole thread was that the band who's lyrics were posted as an example of why emo sucks, ISN'T EVEN A FUCKING EMO BAND. Should I start a thread with the title "Rap Sucks" and then post some Anthrax lyrics as my example? Fuck no. And I have a feeling a lot of people would be taking some verbal shots at me if I did something like that. If there were lyrics by any Jade Tree Records band, I'd say fine. But the fact is, is that apparently what people in here consider emo isn't even fucking emo and then they bitch about how much emo sucks. Singing about your girlfriend breaking up with you isn't emo. Its simply singing about your girlfriend breaking up with you. If you don't like hearing guys whine about that, then fine. Can't say I really blame you. But don't over-generalize and give that as the reason why you hate emo. Because if that's your only definition of emo, then three quarters of the country songs out there would be emo.
But getting back to what I was starting to say. Hey, I have an idea. I'll make a list to make it a little bit easier for people to understand something.
Bands that ARE NOT emo: New Found Glory (pop-punk), Taking Back Sunday (pop-punk), Matchbook Romance (punk/pop-punk), My Chemical Romance (death punk), Dashboard Confessional before the Sparta invasion (folk...........yeah folk. I will NOT argue about this so save your fingers), and just about every other pop-punk band that sings about girls so people assume they are emo.
Bands that ARE emo: Promise Ring, Pedro The Lion, Juliana Theory (sorta), Drive Like Jehu, Circle Takes The Square, Hot Water Music (emo/emocore), Planes Mistaken For Stars, Indian Summer, Death Cab For Cutie, Burning Airlines.
Now with the exception of maybe Promise Ring, Juliana Theory, and Hot Water Music; I would be that the majority of people in here haven't heard of the other bands. Oh maybe Death Cab For Cutie. But I would be really surprised if anyone here has heard of Indian Summer. But hey, you all know what emo is so I guess everyone has.
goddamn you, never mention the mars volta and emo in the same sentence again. the mars volta is the most amazing form of new music, a beacon of creativity and talent that shines above the crapswamp that is modern rock.
call them emo again and i will PM you virii. many virii
emo = "my balls are in a vise"
The problem I have with Emo is I don't think it's very "inspired" or creative for that matter. Instrument wise it sucks. Powerchords...are great, but thats all I ever hear in emo. If they were doing that to have the listerner focus on the lyrics that would be one thing. If you read those lyrics then you know that this is not the case. I don't have a problem with music being emotional, as it should, but the problem is they are fronting. Every song is similiar and expresses a similiar idea. Damnit, you already covered that your girlfriend left you, you can't possibly make a music career out of whining about a single thing. There's gotta be more you care about, and I bet there is at least one emo band that doesn't have a personal connection with the lyrics. IE they write the lyrics because its what some people want to hear, not what they feel.