Discussion in 'Fitness & Nutrition Archives' started by NoQuarter, Dec 6, 2006.
does anyone feel like leg extensions gives them anything that doing a proper squat cant?
I haven't done extensions in months, I'm stronger than I've ever been and. Leg extensions do not AID in squatting power. WOrthless exercise IMO.
Your not allowed to have an opinion. Lunges are one of the single best movements you can do for legs let alone knees if done properly.
that's about the time I noticed my squat go up. I don't think I changed anything diet-wise.
I don't go real heavy, probably ~100-130lbs and do one leg at a time.
the body grows in spurts... just because one of those spurts corresponded with when you started doing leg extensions first in your workout does not mean the leg extensions had anything to do with the improvement in your squat.
Don't think I see powerlifts or olympic athletes do leg ext to improve their squats either
hmm maybe I'll try warming up with something else lol.
YA YOU HAVE A PROBLEM
blanket statements ftl. since when has your focus been strength? your boy pur finds value in them as do many bb'ers .
I don't really see what's about that, feel free to fill me in with words.
you may have just chose poor wording. w/the exception of noob gains, people don't grow/get stronger in spurts? Any increase in rate of progression is made as a result of a change in diet/training/hormones. I agree his increase in squat strength was not necessarily (and probably not) a result of doing leg ext.
I'm saying based on WHAT I've seen with my body. They did nothing but cause me pain in my left knee, Then again I'm doing the entire stack plus a 45lb plate or more. Most people on here don't do that. BUT dropping leg ext has been great for my knee and now I squat more than I ever had, plus my legs are bigger.
leg extentions IMO are a shit exercise. they do not increase your squat, never will never have in anyway in any person period. in addition, paying full attention to bodybuilders for your training advice and knowledge is probably not the best idea for the health of your body in the long run. Most bodybuilders do not know anything about biomechanics of exercise and risk vs. reward exercises. Not hating on BB's, but they are the worst group when it comes to knowledge about joint, ligament, etc. health.
leg extentions are just not worth it really.. the ACL is loaded via tibiofemoral forces throughout the entire ROM. This is not really good for knee health. they also increase lateral patellar pull which = bad since the vast majority of people are already laterally very tight. they also increase rectus forimis activity when the rectus forimis is already such an overworked muscle and a cause of a lot of knee pain for a lot of lifters it doesn't need extra work.. there's a lot more shit
another interesting thing about leg extentions is that research shows they delay the firing of the VMO. This is very bad for knee health, since VMO recruitment and rapid firing is very important in knee health.
there's a ton more research on why leg extentions are not all that great for you if you look for it too
IMO, the only thing leg extensions are good for is getting your tear-drop to pop better, and a decent warm up exercise with light weight.
I used to load up the leg extension machine with 200+ lbs and grunt out 10+ reps thinking that doing this will make my legs stronger.... but it didn't. All it did was aggravate my knees and shins.
I still do them, but it's usually as a warm up and I don't go over 70 lbs. 3 sets of 10 usually suffices as a great warmup and the light weight doesn't really bother my knees.
I think the exercise is good for getting that tear-drop out when you're leaner, but the risk/reward doesn't necessarily justify it.
I've played around with a lot of leg exercises and I feel the 2 best things you can do to build solid quads and still stay relatively safe is front squats and lunges.
I used to think that way, then I learned leg swings to the front and side and scorpions and have more mobility than ever.
when you are doing lunges, do you step forward or backwards?
does it matter? am i nitpicking?
edit: assuming im not doing walking lunges
there's a ton of variations for lunges.. Personally when doing them stationary I like to do reverse lunges, and lately I've been doing it with the barbell in a front squat position (clean grip) because I feel like it puts more emphasis on my quads.
man, this leg workout was brutal today. towards the end I was feeling so nauseated I almost puked.
still cant get lunges in on my leg days, my legs stop functioning by the time im done with leg curls