Discussion in 'Fitness & Nutrition' started by TheBoyWonder, Mar 22, 2008.
do you notice any quicker/more gains over regular creatine mono?
as a heavy supplement user im going to go with it doesnt matter use whatever you want
from my own personal experiences this is what you want in your creatine products:
you want a product that has 2-3 types of creatine, beta alaine in it, 2-3 types of arginine in it, a small dose of caffiene, some l-carnitine etc for starters.
i recommend vasocharge or SANS fierce they are an all in one pre work out drink
sizeon and super pump by gaspari do nothing, green mag does nothing
thanks im taking regular micronized creatine right now
they are based outta lakewood, AKA Jewville thats why
Just for the fuck of it I've tried NO Xplode, Superpump 250, SAN Fierce, and uh...thats about it for "pre workout NO/caffeine" shit.
I didnt notice much of a difference between them or if they did anything at all. I recommend dbol instead.
ive tried sizeon, celltech, greenbulge....sizeon first off sucks a dick. celltech does work but its the bloat that makes you gain the advertised weight. taking greenbulge right now, haven't seen too big of a difference.
you didnt like SAN fierce? i love fierce
I don't know how anyone can "not feel a difference" with something like a pre-workout supp with caffeine/NO etc... maybe you just didn't take a high enough dose?
You definitely feel the caffeine buzz and get a better pump. I know people can be caffeine tolerant but I can't see how there could be anyone who wouldn't respond to arginine or nitric oxide. If you were a non-responder to nitric oxide you'd be dead, lol!
Whether or not it makes a difference for long-term gains, I have no idea. As far as I know nobody has proven their effect either way. Some say the pump is good because it causes blood to rush to muscles. Others say it is bad because the pump actually causes blood to POOL and so nutrients can't be delivered and toxins can't be removed. Others say that the pump stretches the muscle so that it will grow bigger. FUck knows!
that in itself can be a motivational factor when working out. maybe that's the effect
i take white flood pre workout and for creatine, i just take run of the mill micronized monohydrate
What about vassive-ce and vassive-no by ON?
I took the samples that came and had a great workout so i'm thinking about ordering some. Right now I use cellmass http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=6061
anything more than creatine monohydrate is a waste of $
thats what ive gathered from everything ive read about creatine
i use the bodyfortress stuff from target, 5lbs for $10.
I do feel as though I had a better workout on those samples..I'm gonna order some and let you guys know if it was in fact placebo or not
Mono bloats me, it's the only creatine I've used.
I used NO xplode for a while and decided to try out the vassive no. I like it way better then the no xplode because it has all the same effects minus that jittery caff'd up feeling you get from the no xplode and you take way less of the vassive so I don't feel as bloated.
I just have a $10 tub of creatine mono, take it twice a day
I found a good site thats alot cheaper than the ON site.
and I ordered this... http://www.a1supplements.com/Vassive-Kit-30-Packets-p-16268.html
I took super pump and I would have seizures before I went to bed.
Don't ever buy the products directly from the company unless they are having some huge sale or something. I use bodybuilding.com mostly.
Well if you're gonna get bloated from creatine mono you might as well take dbol and get jacked while you're at it.
Yeah I searched around and found a pretty good deal...I listed the links above. I would have ordered from 1fast400 but they didn't carry the product.