Discussion in 'On Topic' started by dubrocker, Dec 31, 2006.
how does an A1C end up pulling that detail?
That's an air force rank, right?
Well, nobody can read those anyway.
Well the Air Force honor guard is heavy with airmen right now and in need of NCOs. So if that doesn't narrow it down, that airman may have been doing honor guard at Boling for well over two years by now.
being on the honor guard has a good sized list of requirements also.
Like fresh out of Basic and volunteered?
I don't really know all of them but they have height and weight requirements. you have to be above I believe 5 10 to be a pallbearer. if you are much taller than that you are pretty much only color guard. military bearing is another thing you can't lack and make the honor guard.
that's not a base honor guard pulling that detail though... isn't that af honor guard?
i'm not bashing the guy, i'm just saying that if 5% of the honor guard is NCO's, you'd think they'd be doing it
i know with navy honor guard they pick 'em right out of boot. they do a year on national honor guard, then go to school. or maybe it was school first...
A lot of the Air Force honor guard is straight out of basic training. That is probably the biggest reason they are so short on NCOs right now. I guarantee those guys doing the funeral are from Boling. That is where the AF Honor Guard is based out of. When I was in base honor guard there were only about 6 total NCOs and probably 60 airmen if not more.
Yeah, he could be Airman of the Year or something.
Don't get me started on pretty boy awards like that.
I smell a rant coming on
I did say not to get me started I can put it in nice easy terms that shouldn't begin a rant though. Awards like that never go to the guys who give 110% to their job and have earned it several times over. It goes to the guys who put 110% into their uniforms and ass kissing. If you think otherwise, you're either ignoring the obvious, too high ranking to see the truth, or you're one of those damn ass sniffing show dogs yourself.
They call BTZ below the zipper for a reason.
I was Airman of the Month and Airman of the Quarter for my Squadron. I was also usually the first NCO in to the shop whenever we had an Alert. I was also promoted BTZ. No one in my shop gave more to the job or worked harder than I did when I was active duty AF.
Don't be jealous just because you are not willing to give the 110% that it takes to get the award.
I am not arguing about this. I've been up for Airman of the Month many times. I've seen people that deserved BTZ get it too. You can't say that I don't give 110% without knowing me. So lets not get into this.
...and yet you felt the need to say that "awards like this never go to the guys who give 110% to their job and have earned it several times over".
I'm not saying that you aren't a worker. I'm saying don't hate the guys that work hard and put in the extra effort to earn this award.
Whitchouse has made Airmen of the month once... he is a very hard worker.. gives 110% sometimes more.. usally though what whitecouch says usally is true.. goes to the pretty boys who know how to kiss ass.
more than once I've been in front of almost a dozen boards
There are a few that deserve the awards they receive, but I've seen way too many cases of the good ole boy club. From the bases and Sqs ive been in, the hard worker that gets it is the exception rather than the rule.
The good ole boy thing is exactly what I was talking about. There is a guy who has been in 10 months longer than me. He got Senior Airman below the zone and was told when he gets back from Iraq he can expect a step promotion. He has no intention of staying in and hits his four year mark early next year at which point he is getting out and going home. The only thing he's done is his job and he's had everything, including an office job specifically made for him, handed to him on a silver platter. THAT is the kind of stuff I am talking about.