After signing up for TemplateP2P I found myself on TemplateMonster looking at templates.... and then somehow stumbled upon TemplateTuning.com an affiliated company which specializes in customizing existing templates. Not being amused by OT at that moment I began to browse more deeply until I found a page containing their sample work - http://www.templatetuning.com/samples.php - and found a winner, the second one from the bottom, here is a link - http://www.templatetuning.com/sample-preview.php?t_id=46 In short, this somewhat large web design firm turned a christmas website template into a marijuana fertilizer website - www.mgrow.com and then highlighted it in their rather limited portfolio of work. Still not amused by anything on OT I found myself contacting their live support to discuss the ethical issues of such a large business creating a website for the distribution of such a product... Please wait. Our chat operators will be available in a few seconds You will now be talking to Kim. Please, wait... [04:02:44] <Kim> Hello [04:02:48] <Kim> What can I do for you ? [04:02:54] <Nathan> Hi Kim [04:03:19] <Nathan> I have a question about some of the examples you give on the samples page. [04:03:20] <Nathan> http://www.templatetuning.com/samples.php [04:03:47] <Nathan> Well, its more of a comment than a question to be honest. [04:05:24] <Nathan> Hello? [04:05:37] <Kim> What is your comment? [04:05:38] <Nathan> As a long time customer of TemplateMonster and a potentail customer of TemplateTuning I was really shocked to find they would advertise the fact they turned a juvenile christmas website into a marijuana fertilizer site. [04:07:21] <Kim> What do you mean? [04:07:26]<Kim> I don't understand you [04:07:36] <Nathan> http://www.templatetuning.com/samples.php [04:07:42] <Nathan> 2nd website from the bottom [04:07:47] <Kim> Which exactly? [04:07:49] <Kim> ok [04:08:23] <Kim> It was a wish of a customer, I guess [04:08:31] <Nathan> I see that Template Tuning built mgrow.com from a template monster "santa" template.... mgrow.com is a marijuana fertilizer site. [04:08:49] <Nathan> Intresting that thats what template tuning would want to advertise [04:09:09] <Kim> It was an order of customer [04:09:30] <Kim> We do what customer asks as to design [04:10:26] <Nathan> so do you like drugs? [04:10:58] <Kim> Budget: 305 USD (template price is not included). Job description: 1. Change the colorscheme on all the pages 2. Changing images 3. Changing slogans in the header Original template: #3585 Learn more [04:11:07] <Kim> it is an order of customer [04:11:27] <Kim> If our customer needs such image we will do it for him [04:11:34] <Kim> We can draw such image [04:11:47] <Nathan> Maybe it should just say "- christmas to canibas theme" [04:12:53] <Kim> Is there anything else I can help you with? [04:13:08] <Nathan> Have you tested the products from this site? [04:13:37] <Kim> I have never been to that website [04:14:24] <Kim> give me a link [04:15:09] <Nathan> ah. you are into that stuff. cool, me too. [04:15:11] <Nathan> www.mgrow.com [04:17:15] <Kim> ok, I can see it [04:17:39] <Nathan> sweet right. [04:17:57] <Kim> Do you have another questions? [04:17:58] <Nathan> can you pass the customers info on to me? maybe i can get a discount? right, you think.. [04:18:29] <Kim> We don't contact our customer's if the project is finished [04:18:50] <Nathan> you dont have to contact them, i will. [04:19:12] <Kim> I can't provide you with this information [04:20:18] <Kim> Is there anything else I can help you with? [04:21:34] <Nathan> what are you wearing? [04:21:55] <Kim> Not your business All said in done, it was fun.