Happened to be back in CA for business/pleasure and met someone who teaches CCW classes for UT permits in Los Angeles...chit chatted a bit and I signed up for my class and will be doing all the paperwork and course this Wednesday! The one bummer is that the state of my residency (MI) won't honor the UT permit since it's an out-of-state permit, but the state I'm moving to (PA) does, so I guess I'm alright. Before anyone asks, I planned originally on getting MI CPL and then applying for PA LTCF but MI requires classes and things seem to be taking really long at most offices. PA LTCF requires references in the state and I don't know anyone there... So I'm assuming with the UT, I can get reciprocity with 28 states including PA... Anyone else have a UT permit, what were your experiences with getting it and how long did the process take?