I'm not overly knowledgeable on every technology thing they come out weekly, currently im trying to build my friend a pc, he's never had one and really wants to learn them. i found this using pricewatch today http://www.smksuperstore.com/catalog/viewitem.asp?ID=13671 Specs: Advertised Motherboard & CPU Combo Includes: Asus P4S800D-X Motherboard – Highly featured ASUS motherboard for Intel Pentium 4 478 Pin Prescott CPUs – SiS 655FX Chipset - 4 DDR400 Slots (Dual Channel memory support) – 5 PCI Slots – 2 IDE and 2 SATA controllers – AGP 8X/4X Slot – 8 USB2.0 – On Board 10/100 LAN and 6-channel Audio - ATX From Factor Other ASUS Brand motherboard options are also available below in the shopping cart. Intel Pentium 4 478pin CPU (3.0GHz - 800MHz FSB - 1MB L2 Cache) Socket 478 Fan & Heatsink seems like a pretty good deal right? Basically he wants a rig he can play games decently on. Pretty much wants a mirror of my pc which is: (this is generated from xfire) Manufacturer: Intel Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 2046MB RAM Hard Drive: 120 GB, 250 GB, 250 GB Video Card: Sapphire RADEON X800GT 256mb DDR Monitor: Viewsonic 22" CRT Sound Card: SB Audigy 4 Speakers/Headphones: Logitech 2.1 X-230 Speakers Keyboard: Logitech Wireless S-510 Mouse: Razer Diamondback Mouse Surface: Mouse Pad Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519) I have my old vid card which should suffice for him. need to just get mobo/cpu, ram and a hard drive. found a sb audigy 4 for 30 bucks today.