Slimmy
Yep.
Seems like I don't even need to finalize my trust now based on that Q&A wording, gonna have to register both mine as an individual, then transfer to a trust later.
Well the original isn't in my trust, and according that link above...that's not feasible. So I'll still get to pay for the stamp, which big whoop.You'll get a free tax stamp and you can throw that stupid ass brace in the trash.
In fairness, if it didn't take a year + to get an SBR and if every state allowed them people would just do that.I been saying it since I made my presence known in the gun crew threads that pistol braces were a temporary skirt of ATF verbage and they would be banned. The only break y'all get is a free tax stamp
Good luck those of you with indefinite excuses as to why you wouldn't just do some basic paperwork.
definitely don't lie about when you transfered them to the trust.Well the original isn't in my trust, and according that link above...that's not feasible. So I'll still get to pay for the stamp, which big whoop.
Says you have to show it was owned by the trust prior to the publish date in the federal register. All my lowers are being transferred to my trust today.definitely don't lie about when you transfered them to the trust.
Also, given that there's never previously been a rule about showing what guns are in a trust, it likely will just be a "Has to have been owned prior to x date".
But IDK,
"Dear ATF, I promise these were owned by the trust, signed, Big Dick Chuck"Says you have to show it was owned by the trust prior to the publish date in the federal register. All my lowers are being transferred to my trust today.
The AP5 I've had in my possession for a while - first form 1 failed because of how I referenced the manufacturer, and I haven't redone it yet. Was waiting until I did my EOY bonus to do them at the same time.definitely don't lie about when you transfered them to the trust.
Also, given that there's never previously been a rule about showing what guns are in a trust, it likely will just be a "Has to have been owned prior to x date".
But IDK,
Well, you can do this one with the brace for free now.The AP5 I've had in my possession for a while - first form 1 failed because of how I referenced the manufacturer, and I haven't redone it yet. Was waiting until I did my EOY bonus to do them at the same time.
And this lower is the EOY splurge so I was just going to submit both again now, plus buy another can and that wait will start this weekend, I guess? Need to find the one I want in stock and that's proving difficult.
Either way I have waits for all of these things, so I'm not in a rush. I just want it all done legally. Don't gaf about the stamp cost or whatever, but would really love the wait times to drop but that's not going to happen.
$200 tax per item to transfer to a trust. Register them to the trust the first time if that's what you want to do.Seems like I don't even need to finalize my trust now based on that Q&A wording, gonna have to register both mine as an individual, then transfer to a trust later.
Well, per the rule, the firearm would have to be registered to the trust prior to today, and since I don't even have my trust established yet...$200 tax per item to transfer to a trust. Register them to the trust the first time if that's what you want to do.
Pro tip: they ain't asking for purchase receipts. Make up an Excel spreadsheet with some arbitrary dates from the before times. Fuck these losers.Well the original isn't in my trust, and according that link above...that's not feasible. So I'll still get to pay for the stamp, which big whoop.
Some people just ain't creative and completely lack any hustle and it shows. Y'all mf reporting out of state purchases on your taxes too? SmhWell, per the rule, the firearm would have to be registered to the trust prior to today, and since I don't even have my trust established yet...
Prior to the publish date. Today is the submission date.Well, per the rule, the firearm would have to be registered to the trust prior to today, and since I don't even have my trust established yet...
YES SIR IRS I PAY TAXES ON EVERY OUT OF STATE PURCHASE AT TIME OF PURCHASE SO I DON'T NEED TO PAY ANY TAXES NOW.Some people just ain't creative and completely lack any hustle and it shows. Y'all mf reporting out of state purchases on your taxes too? Smh
Rule isn't in effect yet, wouldn't worry about it until it's publishedIt's what the deal came with. Gets Form 1'd when I get home and the brace comes off until it clears, now, I guess.
Same reason my AP5 came with a brace. It's what it came with. If I cared to piecemeal it I'd have done so, I just wanted to slap an upper and lower together, toss on the spare optics and whatnot on, and go pew pew at the farm.
No, prior to final publishing in the federal register. That hasn’t happened yet.Well, per the rule, the firearm would have to be registered to the trust prior to today, and since I don't even have my trust established yet...
I'm going to opt to take my legal advice from someone else.Pro tip: they ain't asking for purchase receipts. Make up an Excel spreadsheet with some arbitrary dates from the before times. Fuck these losers.
No, prior to final publishing in the federal register. That hasn’t happened yet.
The verbage isn't even in effect as of today so I mean okay go get told you're being a hoe by someone else who caresI'm going to opt to take my legal advice from someone else.
Once the rule is published you'll have 120 days to not have a brace on your pistol. During that time if you want/it's legal in your state you'll be able to file a Form 1 without the usual $200 tax by filling out the form through a specific webportal that doesn't work yet.Cliff notes this for me.
So you are saying free form1s then? I am into that if it gets approved quick. I am pretty sure I have some spare lowers around.Once the rule is published you'll have 120 days to not have a brace on your pistol. During that time if you want/it's legal in your state you'll be able to file a Form 1 without the usual $200 tax by filling out the form through a specific webportal that doesn't work yet.
Assuming the courts don't get involved.