Discussion in 'Vaginarium' started by JohnJohnJohnson, Sep 13, 2008.
it was horrible.
live and learn i guess.
not much to say other than that it happened and it sucked.
awww! well, you guys will be alright, it happens. Details?
it will seem really small to anyone who isn't us.
i was saying something about Sarah Palin using her demented son as a political ploy, she thought I was making fun of retards, and got really upset (or so it appeared, in reality she wasn't upset at me), i immediately got mad because i thought she was getting upset at me for something i couldn't help, so i instnatly said "fuck it" and turned away from her. totally without thinking. just for some reason almost helplessly reacted before i could think about it.
doesn't seem like a big deal but i've simply never, ever gotten angry at her before so it was a big deal for us. if that makes any sense to anyone else i would be surprised.
I thought you had a thing once b/c you like, walked all over the clean floor or something?
some of YOU guys, mostly just IWYWB, in all her graciousness, told me that that upset was a fight, but that was not a fight.
everyone then said "JJJ why are you being defensive??? only people who are wrong defend themselves."
so it was concluded that it must be a fight because i was saying it was not a fight and the more i said it was not a fight the more certain everyone was that it was a fight... and now you come into this thread months later and say you thought we had a fight about dirty floors.
I resent the use of the word "demented" as well. this is an ongoing issue between me and my boyfriend, along with a slew of other demeaning words.
It makes sense, but the truth is that you're going to get angry at her. youre going to disagree. you guys havent been together that long, so i understand that you havent faced that yet, but the good news is that this is really more of a small misunderstanding to introduce you to the idea that you may not get along absolutely all of the time. For example, there's times I am head over heels in love with him, and there's other times I love him but dont feel those fireworks cracking overhead. its all natural.
there was also the time you traumatized her by not effectively killing the lobster. but that was just sad and not angry.
the situation with the dirty floor was SIMPLY as follows.
Emily got upset because of something i had done, and looked hurt.
i felt pain because she looked hurt at my doing.
brutal, ain't it? fucking brutal.
i'm really not sure i see how you are equating or even relating a fight i had, with the wavering feelings you have for your boyfriend.
do the two go hand in hand for you? fighting and wavering feelings?
yes, i see. i had written something else and then changed it before i posted, and it probably ceased to make sense. I guess that what i want to say is that you're not always going to agree, and that you were always saying how perfect things were all the time, but it just cant be that way 100% of the time. It sucks, of course, but its to be expected.
I do not have wavering feelings for him. But I would agree that in times when we're that more giddy "in love," we fight less, and when things get tougher then we argue more.
Edit: you keep ninja editing after I quote you! stop that.
i'm not sure what that means, "it's to be expected."
if some day i do not find emily fulfilling in every way shape and form, then i will simply find fulfillment in other places in addition to emily or instead of emily. exactly as i would expect her to do.
those are my expectations.
i do not expect anyone to sacrifice anything for me.
bad habit. my bad.
or maybe i was just too blunt
are you married yet?
I don't know anything about your situation, but you definitely sound like you are still in the honeymoon phase. Congrats on having your first fight? Sounds to me like you've got a lot left to experience as far as relationships go. Good luck on your journey.
You?! That totally doesn't seem like something you'd do
No. JJJ is a rational, think-before-you-act kind of guy. That's why I was so surprised.
it was interesting, it was one of the rare instances where my response PRECEDED thought... the only one i can remember even.
that said, i have a huge capacity for anger in GENERAL at least with non-Emily people which i don't usually invoke but sometimes (rationally) decide to do.
a lot of people view anger or acting angry as something you only do on accident or to your detriment. i actually disagree with that statement, i just logically do not agree with it, and i can explode quite easily if i think the situation warrants it... though most often, the situation doesn't warrant it.
this was resolved btw