Discussion in 'Lifestyle' started by Naturally Baked, Nov 27, 2007.
Some of those guys sound themselves...
teens trying to be funny... they go with the obvious joke.
Much like OT.
edited to add: His username made him flame-worthy. He defined himself as gay before he could define himself as anything else (a good team player, good at the game, funny, nice, etc...).
Yeah I saw this over in the gamers section of OT and it fucking pissed me off lol. People are such inconciderate fuckers on live... but then again he was asking for it with a name like xxxgayboyxxx haha
lol I know I thought that too but still, knowing theres that much hate out there is kinda scary. Im sure some were joking, and it doesnt offend me, but I know some people were probably serious. I hear shit all the time Like that on live, not just towards gays, but even towards blacks or other races....Im to lazy to leave feedback though
It's a video game, and an online one at that. If this guy is troubled by getting called names by a bunch of teens on an online game, he will never survive in the real world. He needs to grow a pair and take things with a grain of salt.
Penny Arcade pretty much sums it up:
Socializing in gaming, much like OT, is a free-for-all of fuck baggery. Almost everyone partakes in it. If you come in with a provocative name like "xxxGayBoyxxx," you're bound to be the target. Girls who speak over the mic are prime targets too. It's just a bunch of retards being retards.
That being said, I always ask the female gamers why they're playing <insert violent game> rather than <cooking, cleaning, playing Sims/Animal Crossing/Cooking Mama>. It's all tongue-in-cheek, but I'm sure from her perspective, it doesn't come off that way.
I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that's how it is, man.
These comments on the video pretty much sum it up.
well, if she's wearing a shirt that says "xxx-WHORESLUT-xxx", and she walked into a bar full of men watching porn, I would probably have a lot less sympathy for her if she were raped.
I would like to inquire as to where I can purchase such a shirt.
I don't care about your sexuality until you define yourself by it.. gay/straight whatever... then I respect you less for defining yourself by such a useless standard.
Homophobia is never less homophobic because the person being targeted is less flamboyant than you.
Something good to remember ;-)
Whoa do I know you... 2nd post?
Thats like blaming a woman with a neon sign over her head that says RAPE ME in 4 foot tall letters for being raped.
edit: i see that point has already been made.
eitherway if you're trying to cause yourself problems by going out of your way to draw attention to something that you know other people in a group will not like, you sorta wanted it to begin with and you sorta deserve what you get.
I wouldn't want to try lambasting the host of a KKK rally if I was a black man and it was 1957. I'm not saying what would come of that is moral or just, but there is a known outcome, and you chose to bring it upon yourself.
I've been a gay gamer since as far back as I can remember, I knew I liked video games before I could comprehend liking boys. I can't personally remember ever needing to notify other people that I was gay whilst playing a video game. As far as I can personally figure out, the fact that I like boys never had anything to do with playing video games, especially a first person shooter.
Like I said, I don't condone the abuse, I don't agree with the reality of the situation or even having to deal with it in day to day life. But it is what it is and you would have to have figured that out by now, there are a small vocal minority of people that are afraid of what you represent in themselves and they will stoop to the lowest of lows to cover up their own feelings. So deal with it and stop trying to bring it out of them.
some of these arguments people in this thread are making to justify the abuse seem akin to the ones people make about why gays should stay closeted in real life, and keep everything on the down low
good for the guy for putting it out there, and not letting heteronormativity continue its domination
I respect you less because of your love for the marines and violence in general, which i gleaned from your avatar/usertext/location in 2 seconds. talk about trying too hard
what... you mean it is just a small albeit important part of you, a part of you that you are proud of? shame on you for putting it out there, you should be publicly ostracized every time you log on to OT.
don't start talking about generalizations like "useless standards" unless you really want to start getting introspective about your class/race/nationality/income/gender/favourite colour/hobbies etc it is a huge double standard that exists, and it should be torn down. abuse is never acceptable
This is my first time to this board. I usually post on a different board system, which was down, so I came over here looking for something to do
I think it's important to realize that the person behind this video was clear about their reasons for being provocative. This person chose pink colors and a gamer tag expressing his sexuality on purpose to illustrate the response he was sure he'd get, because he is aware that while he may have been a provocateur, not all people who have similar gaming personas are.
What happens when a person chooses "feminine" colors or a name that in some way spells out, or makes reference to, their sexuality, because that's a genuine and honest expression of that person's personality? Do we punish them? Do we tell them that they shouldn't have expected anything less? Do we, essentially, take the side of the bully?
Unless you can convincingly argue that there is something inherently wrong or harmful about choosing the color pink, or having a name that makes reference to your sexuality, then there's absolutely no grounds for saying that they "deserve what they get."
Why don't more of us stand up for those being bullied, regardless of how strange the behavior of the person being bullied strikes us? A lot of people in this country who think homosexuals should be closeted and secretive have no problem asserting that holding hands in public is "flaunting it," or that bringing up your sexuality in any context is "unnecessary and asking for trouble," but can you imagine someone telling you that you "should have known better" than to act out as flamboyantly as you did? "Flamboyant" is clearly a relative term.
This, to me, is like the "straight-acting" gay person not standing up for, or worse, participating in the ridicule against, the more flamboyant gay person who might have a "certain walk" and speaks with a lisp.
Not to repeat myself...but...
Homophobia is never less homophobic or less worth defending against because it targets someone less flamboyant than yourself
I think that, as a a community, and with respect to fighting homophobia (internal or external), this is a good thing for us all to keep in mind
You should post here more! I agree 110%
Im not flamboyant or even out at all, but when the "gayest" kid I ever met showed up at my apartment during a party (he had makeup on) and someone called him a faggot, I fucking flipped and made the kid who called him a faggot cry LMAO!
Good on you for sticking up for the guy
Why couldn't he stick up for himself.
Look you even acknowledge it, he did it on purpose and got exactly what he wanted from it. How is any of it amazing or astounding. Who gives a fuck, go start a coalition against homophobia on xboxlive and stop typing about how bad it is to a bunch of gay people.
How fucking dumb is it to comment about an atrocity to a bunch of people that are on the receiving end... I'm sure there was atleast one jew at a concentration camp that was outraged on how they were being treated... you think anything came of it? No! Fuck! Get off your ass and go write Microsoft about it if your shit is so stirred up. "hey some guy got on xboxlive and stirred up a bunch of anti-homosexual rhetoric, you have to do something about that Microsoft or I as a gay person will never play any of your games" See how far that shit will get you.
Feel bad for me because I'm gay and attract a bunch of bad attention on purpose!
^I am able to see both sides of the argument....I think thats my curse in life, Im always that guy who agrees with both sides
I don't think the point of the video was to show how bad it is on xbox live, but rather what happens when you put a gay guy in front of a bunch of straight guys who are anonymous on the internet, who won't face any sort of repercussion for what they say, therefore, they speak their mind, which shows you how cruel some people really are...
Is that really the point? Whether or not the person *could* stand up for themselves, someone else saw something wrong and stepped in to defend him.
What's so bad about helping others?