hardest hitting subs? Possibly the stupidest post you will read...

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    about:blank Whether you think that you can or that you can't,

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    I don't care much for the low-low-lowwwwwwwwwwwww bass. I just want something that hits so hard it makes your organs hurt. Would a decent 8" or 10" do something like this?
     
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    the hard hitting feel it in your chest bass is higher up the spectrum, than the low low rumble bass. back when fosgate was making their woofer with pulp cones(and were making the xtr's for orion), the rep would tell us to set the x-over at 200hz to capture that hard hitting pound your chest bass.

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    http://www.bcpl.net/~musicman/freqchrt.htm
    1/3 Octave Frequency Chart

    Audio Octave Ranges

    16Hz to 60 Hz Sense of power, felt more than heard makes music muddy
    60Hz to 250Hz Fundamentals of rythm section, EQing can change musical balance making it fat or thin makes music boomy
    250Hz to 2KHz Low order harmonics of most musical instruments telephone quality to music 500 to 1KHz horn-like, 1K to 2KHz tinny, listening fatigue
    2KHz to 4KHz Speech Recognition 3KHz listening fatigue, lisping quality, "m:, "v", "b" indistinguishable
    4KHz to 6KHz Clarity and definition of voices and instruments, makes music seem closer to listener, adding 6db at 5KHz makes entire mix seem 3db louder sibilance on vocals
    6KHz to 16KHz Brilliance and clarity of sounds sibilance, harshness on vocals

    Key Frequencies For Instruments Instrument Key Frequencies
    Bass Guitar Attack or pluck is increase at 700 or 1KHz; Bottom added at 60 or 80Hz; string noise at 2.5KHz
    Bass Drum Slap at 2.5KHz; Bottom at 60 or 80Hz
    Snare Drum Fatness at 240Hz; Crispness at 1 to 2.5KHz; Bottom at 60 or 80 Hz
    Hi-Hat and Cymbals Shimmer at 7.5 to 10KHz; Klang or gong sound at about 200Hz
    Toms Attach at 5KHz; Fullness at 240Hz
    Floor Toms Attach at 5KHz; Fullness at 80 or 240Hz
    Electric Guitar Body at 240Hz; Clarity at 2.5KHz
    Acoustic Guitar Body at 240Hz; Clarity at 2.5KHz; Bottom at 80 or 120Hz
    Piano Bass at 80 or 120Hz; Presence at 2.5 to 5 KHz; Crispness at 10KHz; Honky-tonk sound at 2.5KHz as bandwidth is narrowed; Resonance at 40 to 60Hz
    Horns Fullness at 120 or 240Hz; Shrill at 2.5 or 5KHz
    Voice Fulness at 120Hz; Boominess at 200 to 240Hz; Presence at 5KHz; Sibilance at 2.5KHz; Air at 12 to 15 KHz
    Harmonica Fat at 240Hz, bite at 3 to 5KHz
    Conga Resonant ring at 200 to 240Hz; Presence and slap at 5KHz
     
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    Thanks for that, it did not go to waste.

    What I got from that was if I use an EQ and basically disable 16 - 60hz range then I will get what I'm asking for with any sub?
     
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    no, you don't want to play a sub that high, it's not made for it, it's made for bass. Set your crossover at about 80 hz. and get a nice pair of 10's and you will be happy. Port them and tune to a higher frequency if you want it to be really loud.
     
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    i wouldn't disable that range, you'd really be missing out on a lot if you did. most people don't play their subs at 80hz or above, because of the human voice... if you aready have strong highs and mids, i'd just look into a pair of 8's for a strong midbass... and a sub or 2 for the low end.
     
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    ever hear of a fullrange hatchback/truck box???
     
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    Yes, but if he wants to really feel the bass, there is no point in playing a sub at over 80hz, it will just sound muddy.
     
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    exactly what I did :o

    configured my amp so my speakers don't playing anything below 80hz and the new sub/amp will have the crossover set to 80hz. It's only an infinity 10" but hopefully it should be enough for now :hs:
     

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