I just want to share with you guys and let you know there is a light at the end of the tunnel so to speak. I read some of the threads in here and in the main forum and some if not more than most are having trouble meeting girls and what to say to them when you do have the courage to approach them. I was in your same situation and when I'd have the courage to go up, I'd not have anything fun/funny/creative to say at all so I'd usually fumble with somethin and come off like a complete boob. Anyways, after a while I got so wrapped up in my career and was too busy to actually want to meet girls because frankly I'd not have the time. Then the more and more that this attitude built up, that I don't want to meet them, the more and more they started becoming easier to talk to. Before you know it they are more interested in you and actually persue you. So, I adopted this attitude that I don't want anything from them and certainly no relationship. So right now I have 2 different dates with two different girls lined up for this week. I'm sure that I'll call that other girl too and go out with her as well. Why? How? well after having the same conversations I was normally having with them, I'd now just follow up with "so you want to go out sometime" and BANG! There you have it. Then, I wouldn't care about those stupid rules of "dont' call her for at least 72 hours" and all that ...I'd call them when I wanted. Usually the same day. I'd keep the conversation to any length that it was geared for. If it was short, and the convesation was quick...so what, more to talk about in person. If they were excited about talking, then we'd talk...2 hours? sure...I stopped caring about all those little rules and situations to "control" the future of the dates or what have you...I stopped all types of caring and did whatever. it works. You'll also be amazed at what a smile and the word "hi" can do as well. So get out there...don't be afraid and don't be worried about what you wear or look like. Most women like a confident man with direction and most of all a sense of humor..looks only matter in high school.