my next box will be an athlon 64 3200+ or thereabouts. i'm confused was to which shuttle to get. the only difference so far that would affect me at all is the chipset, and the front display. http://us.shuttle.com/specs2.asp?pro_id=489 (SK83G) * via k8m800 chipset * front display doesn't have the homo 6-in-1 reader i don't need * onboard VGA (good for my linux box) * i'm leaning towards this because the front display is "normal" like my existing shuttle http://us.shuttle.com/specs2.asp?pro_id=486 (SN85G4V2) * nforce3 150 chipset * faggy 6-in-1 reader i won't use * no onboard VGA (bad for my linux box) does anyone have any thoughts on this? i know the nforce3 150 chipset did good in benchmarks... haven't been able to find comparisons between the VIA and nforce yet though. if anyone finds them please post. so i'm thinking one of those two shuttles - $298 or $310 athlon 64 3200+ (maybe 3400, depends on the price when i order) - $268 1 gig of ram - $150 approx 1 74 gig 10k rpm WD raptor SATA drive - $195 1 MSI geforce 6800 256m agp 8x dual dvi - $500 $1400 approx. the video card is just.. splurging. heh i want to build two boxes actually. one will be my primary windows box. the other will be a linux box that is setup like my servers (the new ones) - so i want to run debian-amd64 on it. so i'll get the same shuttle, chip, ram, etc. and some cheapo video card (i probably have a spare here... just need like 8 megs or some crap - if i get the SK83G it's got onboard VGA already, yet another bonus) and whammo. then i will have 2 shuttles and my laptop. that's all i need, and i will be selling off the rest.