Discussion in 'On Topic' started by david_4x4, Feb 26, 2009.
You bidding on anything from there?
Some pretty wild stuff. Garand SN 00000000? WTF? Not to mention that original prototype Luger.
I guess I'm just a heathen, cause I thought that cut down HK21 was pretty badass.
I can has that 21E?
Im gonna bid on an MP44.
There's other stuff on there Id love to have, but Im not much into just staring at shit right now.
That's my thing..... I never really could just get into the collector grade stuff. Really neat to see, and to hear the history about, but I personally just wouldn't want it. I'm all about shooting stuff, and I imagine some history buff would likely attack and kill me if I took out that SN 000000 Garand shooting one day.
Good luck on the MP44. Are those prices ranges listed in the descriptions accurate you think, or are you hoping to steal it?
fuck me, nice guns.
The prices all seem to be in the fair market range. One may get a deal on some items, but teh last auction they had everything went for normal prices.
jesus christ. the revolvers on page two are
Those Colt Pattersons are fucking pimp.
Man. $1-$2 million
EXTRAORDINARILY RARE PANEL SCENE ENGRAVED COLT SINGLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER, THE EARLIEST KNOWN ENGRAVED SINGLE ACTION “THE 1876 CENTENNIAL EXHIBITION COLT” (350,000-600,000)
Is ammo availability a problem? I see that it's in 8mm kurtz. I don't know of any modern rifles in that chambering...
It seems like it'd be a very neat rifle if you could shoot it every so often. Even if you couldn't, it's still cool.
There's a few ammo manufacturers that produce the stuff now.
I have about 5k rnds already stock piled away.
note there are two pages
holy fuck night vision m1 garand
well no matter what you do, you'll never be as cool as that dude
Black powder arms.
Annie Oaklies shotgun is in there, with the leather case, hot damn!
That's about the only nice sporter Krag I've seen.
Are C&R MG's transfered like any other NFA MG? I've always been curious about that.
If you have a C&R License they ship just like any other C&R gun once the paperwork is approved.
So you still do a form (4?) and $200 tax but they send it right to you?
Life is so unfair.
No fucking way
I'd LOVE to explain the sudden appearance of a Type 99 on my doorstep to the neighbors
Imagine being the delivery guy delivering the ma deuce to your door. Me and a buddy got a kick out of that one.
THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY PAIR OF CASED ENGRAVED PRESENTATION COLT MODEL 1861 PERCUSSION REVOLVERS AND SWORD PRESENTED TO GEN. ROBERT ANDERSON, THE HERO & DEFENDER OF FORT SUMTER, CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA DURING THE BOMBARDMENT THAT SIGNALED THE BEGINNING OF THE CIVIL WAR. SN 12400 & 12401. Cal. 36. This extraordinary and famous cased pair of Colt Model 1861 Navy revolvers was presented to Brig. Gen. Robert Anderson shortly after his heroic defense of Fort Sumter, Charleston, SC, during the bombardment by Confederate forces on April 12 & 13, 1861. On Nov. 20, 1860, the then Maj. Anderson had been placed in command of the Charleston Harbor defenses which included Fort Moultrie, Castle Pinckney and Fort Sumter. Maj. Anderson & his small garrison of less than 100 men occupied Fort Moultrie as their primary headquarters. Realizing that Fort Moultrie could not be defended from a landward attack he withdrew his command, by boat, to Fort Sumter which although was still under construction was deemed more defendable than Fort Moultrie. With the workmen & soldiers he continued construction and implacing his artillery batteries until April 12, 1861, almost immediately after South Carolina's secession from the Union. At that time a major force of Confederate artillery from Fort Moultrie and other surrounding batteries, after their demand of Maj. Anderson's surrender of Fort Sumter was refused, began a sustained barrage of almost 36 hours. On April 13th with no remaining food or ammunition Maj. Anderson surrendered the fort and marched out with his 70 remaining men taking the flag with him. He was received in New York on the following day to great acclaim and recognition and was immediately appointed Brig. General and assigned to command the Dept. of Kentucky and later the Dept. of the Cumberland. It was, apparently, during these celebrations of Gen. Anderson's heroic defense of Fort Sumter that this beautiful set of Colts were presented by Samuel Colt. Gen. Anderson, due to ill health, was relieved of duty on Oct. 27, 1863 and retired from active service. On Feb. 3, 1865 he was breveted Maj. General for meritorious & gallant service during the siege of Fort Sumter. On Feb. 17, 1865 the Confederate Army abandoned Fort Sumter and on April 13th Gen. Lee surrendered. In spite of his ill health, on April 14, 1865 Maj. Gen. Anderson and a large entourage returned to Fort Sumter where he raised the orig Fort Sumter flag up a hastily erected flagpole on the parade ground. With his health continuing to fail, in 1869 he sailed for Europe believing that the European climate would be beneficial to his health. He died in Nice, France on Oct. 27, 1871. His body was returned to the United States and was buried at West Point. Gen. Anderson was born near Louisville, Kentucky on June 14, 1805 and graduated from West Point Military Academy in 1825 and was appointed 2nd Lieutenant in the 3rd Artillery. In 1832 he served as a Colonel of Illinois Volunteers during the Black Hawk War. In 1835-37 he was an instructor of Artillery at West Point, then 1837-38 he served in the Seminole War and was breveted Captain and was subsequently attached to the staff of Gen Scott as Asst. Adjutant General and made permanent Captain. He served in the Mexican War in several battles and was severely wounded at the Battle of Molino del Rey receiving citations for bravery & gallantry. After the war with Mexico he remained in the military and in 1857 was appointed Major of the 1st Artillery which led to his being appointed Commander of troops at Charleston Harbor. This fantastic set is described as follows: Remaining pristine new & unfired with their glossy blue bbls and cylinders and brilliant case colors on frames, hammers & rammers and mounted with extraordinary smooth 1-pc ivory grips, these deluxe presentation revolvers are the epitome of the Colt collectors' quest for quality, condition & historical significance all rolled into one package. They are engraved with Gustave Young's finest most deluxe & widest coverage. The engraving consists of sweeping intertwined foliate arabesque patterns with full coverage over the frames, extensive patterns on both sides of the bbls & bbl lugs, around front sights & muzzles, on rammer pivots, tops of back straps, butt straps & trigger guards. Hammers have Mr. Young's extensive deluxe engraving on both sides with exquisite eagle's heads on each side of the hammer noses. Top edges of the hammers are equally beautifully engraved with hand cut swallowtail checkered patterns on the spurs. Cylinders are equally magnificent with hand cut Ormsby Naval battle scenes and extensive foliate arabesque patterns over the rear 1/3 of each cylinder. Handles of rammers have extensive, very fine, hand cut checkering with hand cut checkered pads on the rammer latches. Wedges are matching engraved on their ends. Engraving patterns on the frames & bbls frequently terminate in flower blossoms with Mr. Young having incorporated an eagle's head in the patterns on the frame of #12400. Another eagle's head is on the left side of the bbl lug and a dog's head just above the wedge screw. Right side of the frame has a dog's head incorporated in one of the patterns and right side of the bbl lug has an eagle's head and a dog's head within the patterns. Number 12401 has a dog's head on the left side of the frame with a dog's head & eagle's head the on left side of the bbl. Right side of the frame also has an eagle's head with one dog's head on right side of bbl. The serial numbers on both revolvers on bottoms of the frames, bbl lugs, trigger guards & back straps are accompanied by the initials "IE". Most importantly the back straps are engraved in period script "To Gen. Robert Anderson U.S.A. / With Compliments of Colt's Pt. F.A.Mg.Co.". The tops of both back straps have extraordinary foliate fan or shell patterns with chip borders. Shoulders of the back straps & shoulders of the trigger guards are also beautifully engraved and left sides of the frames are engraved "COLT'S PATENT" in kidney shaped panels. These spectacular revolvers are accompanied by their equally spectacular walnut casing that has gold plated corner reinforcements, an empty presentation plate in the center of the lid, a mortised lock with gold plated escutcheon and mortised European style gold plated sliding latches. Interior is lined in burgundy velvet, compartmented in the bottom for the revolvers, a new & unused "COLTS PATENT", angle spout, Navy sized flask, a spectacular high polish presentation grade "COLT'S PATENT" 2-cavity mold with sprue cutter, two lacquered tins for Eley's caps, a presentation polished L-shaped nipple wrench/screwdriver, two trigger springs, two nipples, two spare hammer springs and two spare hands with attached springs. The trigger springs & nipples remain sewn in place as they were originally presented to Gen. Anderson as does the orig key sewn to the lining of the lid. Also accompanying are four packets of Colt Cartridge Works combustible cartridges. Also accompanying this fantastic lot is a wonderful 1840's pattern sword presented to Gen. Anderson during the same period of time. The sword is by Ames with a 31" double edged tapered blade, 5/8" at the ricasso, etched on both sides with trophies of arms & flags and an eagle on the right side. Left side of the blade has the Ames Company name & address. It is mounted with a spectacular carved ivory handle with a trophy of arms on the right side and raised carved acanthus leaves and a bust portrait on the left side. The pommel, knuckle bow & counter guard are gold washed with the pommel a very detailed helmeted knight's head with acanthus leaves, lightning bolt arrows & flower blossoms on the knuckle bow. The handguard is engraved "ET DECUS ET PRETIUM REGTI. / The CITIZENS of TAUNTON, MASS. / MAJOR ROBERT ANDERSON U.S.A. / A tribute to his courage and his Fidelity / ACQUIRIT QUI TUETUR." The scabbard is equally beautiful with full gold plating and rococo hangers with oak leaves & acorns on the drag and a beautiful handengraved panel in the center surmounted by a trophy of arms. Lower hanger is engraved with a very detailed rendition of Fort Sumter flying the American flag. The space between the hangers is engraved with a small trophy of arms and a wreath surrounding the inscription "DEO DUCE, FERRO COMITATE". There is also a gold braid sword knot hanging from the lower ring of the upper hanger. Accompanied by its orig blue velvet lined walnut casing. Sword is also accompanied by Gen. Anderson's General Officer's gold braid sword belt with gold braid hangers and his orig gold & silver rectangular officer's buckle. Belt is lined with fine brown Moroccan leather Additionally accompanied by a large volume of reference material, articles and copies of photographs of Gen. Anderson, his family and other officers along with an CDV of Major Anderson in uniform with his orig signature and another CDV of Anerdson in the uniform of a Brig Gen. There is also a fine steel engraving of Gen. Anderson by J.C. Buttre of New York. In addition there are four orig Harper's Weekly newspapers dated Jan. 12, 1861 issue which features an article about Maj. Anderson; March 23, 1861 which has an engraving of the photo of Maj. Anderson and the other eight officers with him at Fort Sumter and the April 27, 1861 issue describing the bombardment of Fort Sumter; May 4, 1861 with the entire front cover an engraving of the shelling of fort Sumter with the City of Charleston in the foreground entitled "The House-Tops in Charleston During the Bombardment of Sumter". It depicts the housetops covered with spectators, most of whom are cheering with some of the ladies openly weeping. Also accompanying is another steel engraving of Maj. Anderson by G.F. Perine of South Carolina. Also accompanying this extraordinary lot are two National Rifle Association (NRA) medals. 1) NRA Silver Medal #331 awarded to these revolvers as one of the Top Ten Displays at an association meeting; 2) NRA Gold Medal #3 a "National Treasure" Medal. Only three of these gold medals have ever been awarded since the inception of the award during the 1998 NRA Annual Meeting. Also accompanying is a Fort Sumter medal to Maj. Anderson from the Citizens of New York. This medal measures 2-3/4" diameter with the image of the Bombardment of Fort Sumter surmounted by "SUMTER" with the dates April 12 & 13, 1861 below. Additionally accompanying are three of Gen. Anderson's GAR medals, a bronze, a silver and a gold, with a tiny gold replica lapel pin. All four medals have American flag ribbons with an eagle resting on cannon bbls, a saber & cannon balls. All four medals are identical with 5-point stars and the Grand Army of the Republic inscription with the dates 1861-Veteran-1866. An additional accompaniment is the Fort Sumter token which is one of 400 ordered struck by Gen. Quincy Gilmore which has a raised depiction of the battered Fort Sumter over the date "AUG. 23D 1863" and the reverse in raised letters "FOR GALLANT AND MERITORIOUS CONDUCT / PRESENTED / BY / Q. Gillmore / Maryland". Also accompanying is a certificate entitling Gen. Robert Anderson to 32 shares of the Chicago & Great Eastern Railway Company dated May 21, 1866. The shares were valued at $100 each. And finally accompanied by a bronze rampant Colt trophy mounted on a round walnut base. Overall height is 14". The historic importance of these wonderful Colts cannot be overemphasized when considering the courage and gallantry exhibited by Maj. Anderson and his command in the defense of his flag and national honor. PROVENANCE: Dr. Joseph A. Murphy Collection; Bob Berryman Collection; Chris Anderson Collection. CONDITION: Extraordinarily fine, all visible numbers are matching. No dis-assembly was attempted to check for other matching numbers. Both revolvers retain virtually all of their orig brilliant factory finish with glossy bright blue and strong bright case colors. Trigger guards & back straps retain most of their strong orig silver plating with #12400 showing about 20-25% silver losses. Grips are equally crisp & new with wonderful mellow ivory patina showing no use or imperfections. Case is equally new with a few minor grain checks in the lid and a couple more in the bottom under the cloth covering and overall retains most of its orig varnish with some losses of gold plating on the plate in the lid. Interior is extremely fine showing fading in the bottom with some minor damages from the front sights & hammer spurs. Flask, mold & nipple wrench retain about all of their orig factory finish. Spare parts & cap tins are also equally fine. All other accessories are extremely fine as are the accompanying ephemera, medals & medallions. Sword is equally new retaining virtually all of its orig gold plating and fine etching & frosting on the blade. Ivory handle retains all of its orig deep relief carving and has a beautiful ivory patina. Case is also extremely fine with some minor scratches, nicks & dings and light wear on corners. Interior is deep purple with slight edge wear. Sword belt lining is a little fragile with some crackling but complete and nearly intact with bright gold in the outside covering and on the buckle. Bronze is extremely fine with some minor oxidation around horses mouth. 4-36398 JR204 (1,250,000-2,500,000)