Discussion in 'On Topic' started by Admitted, May 6, 2009.
I saw that on Drudge this morning. It seems like more and more issues like this are making the news. It's about damn time.
I heart Drudge.
Sense. This makes a hell of a lot of it.
It's awesome....7 Billion from Chrysler we'll never see again. half was given to "help make it through the bankruptcy"
Sadly, it's not enough.
Agreed. I like that this movement is growing.
No, it's not. But it's a start.
OOO WOW RESOLUTIONS
It has as much legal weight as me writing it down and declaring it.
I remember a bunch of guys who wrote some stuff down on a Declaration once...
We shouldn't dismiss small victories, as they are still victories. That this is happening at all is heartening.
Exactly. This actual effect of the legislation means little compared to the message behind it, which essentially shows the beginning of a paradigm shift towards the view of the state/federal relationship by local legislators. They are "Fed" up, if you will.
i live in kansas and work in oklahoma... i guess i'll need to get a work visa.
the union is falling apart.
Hopefully at some point the union will be restored to what it was intended to be: A Constitutional government of limited and enumerated powers.
i know... i'm not talking about this story alone.
That would be the day! What do you think of congressional term limits? I think that's at least a step in that direction. It seems that while people have a perennially dismal view of congress nobody can find the courage to really push this.
I'm not sure... I have kind of mixed feelings. When I have a senator or representative who's awesome, I'm against term limits. When I have one that I hate (like right now), I'm for them.
Realistically, though, it will never get passed in congress. Those guys are never going to do something that reduces their ability to make a career out of being rich and powerful. If it ever happens, it will be through a constitutional convention. And a convention could be a scary proposition.
I'd like to see congressional term limits, coupled with a ban from you working in the private sector for the same length of term. The govt would continue to pay you a salary. Your spouse would also be barred from employment with any private company for that same time, that could reasonably shown to be a conflict of interest with legislation you were involved in. Obviously that is fairly simplistic, but it gets the point across.
not enough people are willing to take responsiblity of their own actions... too many people need everything spelled out for them, and need someone to hold their hand through life... the government only grows, because the people want it.
Finally something that makes me proud to live in Oklahoma
That is certainly a downfall, but there are so many other positions, levels, sectors of govt that they could be helpful in, that with how big a shithole Capitol Hill currently is, I think flushing the toilet is worth some collateral damage.
What do you guys think about a compromise? A sort of "limited term limit", where no rep or senator can serve more than two CONSECUTIVE terms?
+1 there are far more people interested in nothing but getting rich and getting reelected than there are people who are really interested in wise public policy.
when you get some good people representing you, you don't really want to trade them in on someone who could be harmful.
if you're likeminded with the majority, you can vote the bad ones out.