Housing market is too far gone.

Hisma

OT Supporter
Apr 2, 2006
53,985
Reno, NV
Veterans United and USAA/navy federal are garbage. Stay far away.
Any recommendations for home insurance for a VA loan home? We got dropped recently (our fault, home was being rented and forgot to inform the insurer). We are going to be occupying the home next month, and our insurance will be dropping us by early May.
 

Remy Bressant

d i l d e r
OT Supporter
Jul 24, 2015
34,021
SoCal
So…more bullshit. And the buyer has to request the waiver, why should a seller expose themselves to any of that in a competitive market?
Clearly if the buyer is paying 6% then the agent would be good enough to handle any minor issue like that and get a deserving VA buyer into the home. IMHO. TBQH
 
  • Like
Reactions: Hisma

saabguy

Saab-free since 2013. Mortgage guru
OT Supporter
Aug 11, 2003
23,696
Loserville. Population: 1
Any recommendations for home insurance for a VA loan home? We got dropped recently (our fault, home was being rented and forgot to inform the insurer). We are going to be occupying the home next month, and our insurance will be dropping us by early May.
Highly localized. Insurance sucks here now (Louisiana, and anywhere around the gulf coast). USAA has been a really good option. In other markets, USAA may be strong, but there may be other carriers/agents who are better.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Hisma

Nebel

Pilot Member
OT Supporter
May 26, 2003
11,335
Norf Carolina
Any recommendations for home insurance for a VA loan home? We got dropped recently (our fault, home was being rented and forgot to inform the insurer). We are going to be occupying the home next month, and our insurance will be dropping us by early May.
We switched from USAA to State Farm.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Hisma

JacksonWhite

Banned
Apr 11, 2011
13,680
Where are all the homes for sale

I live in a NYC suburb and If you do the math, there is one home for sale per 2500 residents right now. This is the main spring buying season too.

I get people hunkering down with a low rate, but you would think there would be more demand just from people dying or retiring and downsizing if nothing else.
 

Hisma

OT Supporter
Apr 2, 2006
53,985
Reno, NV
Highly localized. Insurance sucks here now (Louisiana, and anywhere around the gulf coast). USAA has been a really good option. In other markets, USAA may be strong, but there may be other carriers/agents who are better.
Cool, wasn't sure if there was a go to option. Progressive is who dropped us, so luckily USAA is still on the table. I recall their rates not being all so great compared to progressive way back, but it's been a long time.
 

midnite

OT Supporter
Apr 5, 2002
87,589
San Diego, CA
Highly localized. Insurance sucks here now (Louisiana, and anywhere around the gulf coast). USAA has been a really good option. In other markets, USAA may be strong, but there may be other carriers/agents who are better.
I like USAA generally, but they wont insure my house because of fire which is annoying
 

calisteph6

Well-Known Member
May 5, 2005
17,209
KRAPROOM
Where are all the homes for sale

I live in a NYC suburb and If you do the math, there is one home for sale per 2500 residents right now. This is the main spring buying season too.

I get people hunkering down with a low rate, but you would think there would be more demand just from people dying or retiring and downsizing if nothing else.
These boomers need to die. Where is Covid 2.0??
 

Mejnoon

Well-Known Member
May 6, 2000
34,966
Omaha, NE
It’s not bullshit. If that was an FHA appraisal it could/would have been seen as a similar issue and there wouldn’t be the same recourse.

I typed up a 3 sentence letter, sent it thru docusign, the buyer e-signed it, uploaded to VA, it was cleared the next morning.
Your personal tolerance level aside it is absolutely extra bullshit. From a seller’s perspective it’s an additional issue he has to either correct or negotiate with the buyer on - an additional opportunity for buyer to cancel or use contingencies to try to extract concessions. All else being equal no rational person would accept a VA offer over conventional and you’re kinda gaslighting by pretending it doesn’t make a difference.

A listing agent has an obligation to explain the additional risks inherent in a VA financed offer relative to conventional to his seller, and a buyers agent is obligated to explain the competitive disadvantage inherent in their buyer’s election to use VA financing over conventional.
 
  • Like
Reactions: kwhitelaw

americanwit

OT Supporter
Nov 28, 2004
1,852
Houston, TX
Where are all the homes for sale

I live in a NYC suburb and If you do the math, there is one home for sale per 2500 residents right now. This is the main spring buying season too.

I get people hunkering down with a low rate, but you would think there would be more demand just from people dying or retiring and downsizing if nothing else.

why downsize if the rate difference will literally mean paying more for less house? existing home sales going to be stagnant for some time no one with a 3.5% or less mortgage is going to move unless they HAVE TO
 

kwhitelaw

OT Supporter
Sep 1, 2004
40,435
virginia
Your personal tolerance level aside it is absolutely extra bullshit. From a seller’s perspective it’s an additional issue he has to either correct or negotiate with the buyer on - an additional opportunity for buyer to cancel or use contingencies to try to extract concessions. All else being equal no rational person would accept a VA offer over conventional and you’re kinda gaslighting by pretending it doesn’t make a difference.

A listing agent has an obligation to explain the additional risks inherent in a VA financed offer relative to conventional to his seller, and a buyers agent is obligated to explain the competitive disadvantage inherent in their buyer’s election to use VA financing over conventional.
This^

Plus @saabguy does a low VA appraisal if a deal falls through still stick to the property for 90days or whatever, limiting taking a second VA offer? I never dealt with it but vaguely remember seeing some listings come back active stating no VA offers due to this
 

kwhitelaw

OT Supporter
Sep 1, 2004
40,435
virginia
If I find you IRL I’m going to rape you




i-volunteer-jennifer-lawrence.gif
 

Hisma

OT Supporter
Apr 2, 2006
53,985
Reno, NV
Your personal tolerance level aside it is absolutely extra bullshit. From a seller’s perspective it’s an additional issue he has to either correct or negotiate with the buyer on - an additional opportunity for buyer to cancel or use contingencies to try to extract concessions. All else being equal no rational person would accept a VA offer over conventional and you’re kinda gaslighting by pretending it doesn’t make a difference.

A listing agent has an obligation to explain the additional risks inherent in a VA financed offer relative to conventional to his seller, and a buyers agent is obligated to explain the competitive disadvantage inherent in their buyer’s election to use VA financing over conventional.
Anecdotally I won a bid on a foreclosure property on a multiple offer home with a VA loan. None of my realtors bitched about the fact that I was using a VA loan in the 2 homes I bought. I do remember there being a lot of diligence in the appraisal process, but it didn't impede the process, even on the foreclosure home.
 

saabguy

Saab-free since 2013. Mortgage guru
OT Supporter
Aug 11, 2003
23,696
Loserville. Population: 1
This^

Plus @saabguy does a low VA appraisal if a deal falls through still stick to the property for 90days or whatever, limiting taking a second VA offer? I never dealt with it but vaguely remember seeing some listings come back active stating no VA offers due to this
No. The appraisal sticks with the veteran, it does not stick with the property. That’s another misconception.

There is no 90 or 180 day flip rule with VA. Another misconception.

Statistics show that VA appraisals come on at or above sales price the same or slightly higher rates than conventional.

I also have a chart somewhere that shows the rate of loan denials on VA loans is like less than 5%, which is the lowest of all programs available.
 

kwhitelaw

OT Supporter
Sep 1, 2004
40,435
virginia
No. The appraisal sticks with the veteran, it does not stick with the property. That’s another misconception.

There is no 90 or 180 day flip rule with VA. Another misconception.

Statistics show that VA appraisals come on at or above sales price the same or slightly higher rates than conventional.

I also have a chart somewhere that shows the rate of loan denials on VA loans is like less than 5%, which is the lowest of all programs available.
Could have sworn a VA appraisal attaches to the property via case number for a period of time. Never dealt with it clearly :h5:
 

Users who are viewing this thread

About Us

  • Please do not post anything that violates any Local, State, Federal or International Laws. Your privacy is protected. You have the right to be forgotten. Site funded by advertising, link monetization and member support.
OT v15.14.0 Copyright © 2000-2023 Offtopic.com
Served by fx.offtopic.com

Online statistics

Members online
426
Guests online
399
Total visitors
825

Forum statistics

Threads
80,625
Messages
7,863,961
Members
87,112
Latest member
zyfinity