Discussion in 'OT Bar' started by BCIT, Dec 19, 2008.
they're both grappling arts
i wont argue its less effective because i never tried it personally. however i have competed in an advanced division against a very big guy from erik paulson's gym. and his technique sucked. I know a purple belt who teaches there, who also sucks. but that is just from my personal experience so I could totally be wrong on that.
i think the #1 reason is that its almost impossible to find somewhere reputable that teaches it.
Isn't Josh Barnett a catch wrestler?
yaeh he is
just based on some of the stuff I've seen it would open up the world of submissions to ridiculous possibilities.
you have to find someone that teaches it well and people who want to learn it and bjj is probably better then catch wrestlin thats why no one learns it?
Kinda like how people rather learn muay thai then kickboxing
I think it's more of a matter that catch wrestling is aggressive submissions, whereas BJJ is 'passive' and 'defensive'. For example in catch being in guard is something you DON'T want.
go google catch wrestlign
apparantly it was the basis used for other forms of fighting.
It's also the case that they do a lot of leg locks that most BJJ tournaments don't allow
from that video posted in the other thread there doesn't appear to be many counters, and its so very easy to do serious serious leg damage.
If you can find somewhere good to learn catch, do it!
they are crazy insane on takedowns and ground work, just look at sakuraba!
yeah theyre real submissions but theyre just low percentage.. meaning, its difficult to get someone good into those kinds of positions compared to say.. an armbar
but it also opens up options. like i saw in a video where he showed how people were obsessed with getting people's backs when their legs were just as viable.
this is kinda neat
i've never practiced it either or even seen much of it. i was under the impression that it was mostly a lot of cowboy crazy submissions with less regard for position. i heard that is (or at least was) the style over at AMC pankration. that's why one of my good friends left.
IIRC many of their subs only cause minor pain or are easy to get out of or defend against, such as wrist locks and foot cranks...not that those don't hurt when you're caught but they're low percentage subs as you can see them coming a mile away. It's good for self defense against someone who doesn't know anything though.