Discussion in 'Fitness & Nutrition' started by shastaisforwinners, Mar 8, 2006.
good primer on carbs requirements
in for later... printing so i can read at my desk and look like i'm working
Good read. Thanks.
i read it. in really simple terms, he says that in order to survive, the body needs 0 carbs. However, in order to prevent muscle loss when dieting (assuming already that you are getting enough protein), you need approximately 50 carbs/day + 2.5 for every work set in your training that day. If you are someone that does not do well in ketosis, make it 100 carbs / day + 2.5 per work set. no additional adjustments necessary for cardio.
he doesn't mention timing, i would guess spaced out throughout the day with your meals would be better than all at once, so as to provide the body with a more constant supply.
i thought you were supposed to get the majority either early in the morning or right before/after lifting
The biggest portion of carbs I normally take is post workout.
well we're not talking about a diet consisting of a normal amount of carbs here. This is if you are getting the bare minimum amount of carbs necessary to prevent the body from breakdown down muscle for energy.
same here, i think
but your data is moot, since you don't eat pre workout
yeah, i see your point
i prob. can't relate b/c i've never dropped my carbs that low, afaik
So his claim goes completely against the whole "No Carb" diet?
not really, he's saying that a small carb intake (but slightly higher than what's recommended in most low carb diets) can be beneficial in retaining muscle while dieting.
I had 300g of carbs yesterday, and I'm at 200g for today
Eating at home means eating a lot of rice/noodles, which means a lot of carbs.
200-300 is NOT alot of carbs by any means
It is for me actually.
I'm @ 18g today.
Like usual, genetic freaks don't apply
Asian too, huh? I want my ramen and steamed rice.
italian humans do
What I usually do (as it works pretty well from my experience) is when cutting I start off with keeping my carb intake the same it has always been. I just cut calories and fat down significantly. I will do this for about 6-8 weeks, and around this time I will start to see a plateau in body fat % loss. Then what I do is decrease carb intake, but increase my fats more... But in doing so, I will increase my cardio to insure that the fats are being burned more.
I guess it is different for everyone, but I have found that low cal/low fat for first 6-8 weeks and then low car/slightly higher fat/increase cardio for the next 8-10 weeks gives you a pretty damn good cut.
Then when bulking I increase all 3 (fat, carb, calories) but try and keep the diet lean for a high calorie, but clean bulk.
there is some sketchy sketchy biological assumptions in this
works better for me, especially since i store all my fat on my stomach/obliques