Discussion in 'Fitness & Nutrition' started by igo4bmx, Oct 6, 2008.
A 1994 study in the New England Journal of Medicine sent MRIs of 98 "healthy" backs to various doctors, and asked them to diagnose them. The doctors were not told that the patients felt fine and had no history of back pain.
80% of the MRI interpretations came back with disc herniations and bulges. In 38% of the patients, there was involvement of more than one disc.
It’s estimated that 85% of lower back pain patients don’t get a precise diagnosis.
Roughly 1/3 of all athletes have disc bulges that go completely undiagnosed.
Cool details, Hansel
I thought it said herniated dick.
wtf is up with asians on F&N having back probs today?
wait... are you saying that the doctors misdiagnosed herniations and bulges, or that the "healthy backed" individuals actually had herniations and bulges but simply did not experience pain or disability from them?
Interesting. I wonder if I have any
Ego training IMO
nothing bulging- i hurt myself doing light deads yesterday, then went to a sports medicine doc/orthopaedic person and he said based on my pain from different movements its a hern disk.
Did he give you any home exercises?
Have you thought of going to a chiropractor?
Better that, than surgery.
only difference is that a bulging disc still contains the nucleus, it's like a precursor to a herniation
Oh hey look, it's the chiropractics-is-good guy who posts about seeing a chiropractor in -every- back pain thread.
The first thing any doc will tell you is that we all have a degenerative spine. I'm like, no shit.
This is not necessarily true by any means and a chiro can screw you up badly if you have a bulging disc or herniation....If you find out from your MRI that your disc is herniated or a rupture try PT avidly for 4 months or so...If another MRI at that time shows no improvement go have surgery.....I speak from experience.....
Herniated my disk 3 years ago. It was pretty painful day to day for a while, then eventually it would come and go, maybe a discomfort/shooting pain here and there, and now I really never notice anything. Maybe it has to do with me being young.
Surgery and whatever types of injections they wanted to give me seemed like pretty shitty options, and I am glad to have stuck it out so far and improved.
I have to call BS on this one.
If it's a situation where he shouldn't be adjusted, the DC wouldn't, but there are lots of other options. Rehab as prescribed, spinal decompression (which I'm not a big fan of) and PT.
The only thing you DON'T want to do in the case of a herniated disc is side posture, due to the amount of torque on the disc itself. In most cases it can be helped and eventually resolved through different non surgical techniques.
Personally I'd submit myself to a battery of orthopedic testing to determine the best course of action.
You just called BS when I am saying something very similar to what you are saying....Try PT first if it doesn't work within 4 months, then go have surgery....This is if the disc is truely herniated (ruptured) instead of a slight bulge.....The surgery today is much more advanced then 5 or 10 years ago.....By the way do you have any experience with this situation.....
Yes. I have adjusted above and below disc herniations this month with quite a bit of success.
I also had them doing rehab. The truth is that there is no silver bullet. The idea is to restore proper motion and then rehab it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's too severe a problem and at that point options become more limited.
I agree with your statement somewhat. Hopefully they recover and get better....For me, I wish I would have had the surgery right away.....
Everyone's different, and it all boils down to a matter of how bad the problem is.
Obviously there is a time for drugs and surgery. I see it as my job to keep people from having either.
I'm more of a proactive measure. Right now I'm working on a program to correct scoliotic curves.
its thursday and i can walk and stand and do all sorts of things.
i don't feel much pain as all- just a slight sensation in my lower back.
now my upper back feels sore...
Excellent! Did you do anything for it or just take it easy?