i was just thinkin about it the other day and it makes no sense to me why in the year 2009 we are still haggling car prices? they thought we would be driving flying cars by now and yet were still driving 4 wheeled machines and using the same process for selling bread in the 1800s? if you went to target and said id like to pay $2 for this large bag of chips they would look at you and say "thats nice... they are $3.49" ... and we've grown to the point that buying groceries is a simple "stop an pop" at your local store. so how many bags of Doritos do you think they would sell if you went in and said you would pay $2, then they said "hold on i have to talk to my manager"" ... "he says we can do 2.75" ... and this happened every time you wanted some chips, would you buy chips as often as you do now? i doubt it... so i understand the whole competitive angle of selling cars and how they make commission from the sales and thats how they make big bucks but doesn't seem that car sales pretty much caters to the salesmen and not the buyer? does it not seem like going to the dentist to even just go look at a car? "oh crap here comes one of the sharks just tell him were only looking honey"... so thinking about it, how many more cars a month would a dealer sell if it was like buying a bag of chips? you walk in ... "can i get a 6 pack of coke and 2004 chevy malibu?" "ok sir that'll be $12,479" "ok heres my card" "alright heres your recepit, thank you for shopping at Chevy have a nice day" obviously thats an exaggeration but you get my idea maybe im off my rocker but i just think that car sales would go up even in this economic crisis if buying one was like shopping at a retail store... i know carmax exists and i bought my current truck from them, however, im not at all saying they are gods gift to automotive sales i had some issues with them and they are still just a used car dealer but at least they're stance on price easy. typically they sell for right around blue book on the cars because they get them for less and its really painless to get setup buy it. my issues were after i bought it... i donno i could rant for other 4 pages but ill stop, what do you guys think? is it time for the automotive industry to recognize that its not 1809 and that its 2009 and make car buying a happier / easier experience?