Discussion in 'On Topic' started by geekboy, Feb 19, 2010.
MS3 year, FTMFL
i want to go back being an enlisted PVT
Dude, are you seriously bitching about MS3 year? Jesus, you haven't even been to Lewis yet. You may want to examine the whole officer thing. ROTC is supposed to stress out a COLLEGE student. It's designed that way. But the stress is nothing compared to being an LT in RA.
taking 18 credits this semester
work 20 hours/week
10 hours of Jiujitsu training/week
SMP with a NG
president of a club at my school
Sounds like you just overloaded yourself. Make some sacrifices.
ROTC is easy as fuck
ranger challenge is a fall event shouldnt be year round
I wish I was still in ROTC in college
we train all year round except in the summer, 5x/week.
Fuck, we even have to train on the saturday 2x/month.
16 miles ruck tomorrow.
I guess that's why we took first place the last two years
I went to basic/ait when i was 17 and police academy when i was 23, so i know all about stress.
ROTC is easy if that's the only thing i'm doing right now, but it's not
it's easy aside from all the stupid shit and bullshit you have to put up with...
I just started this semester but they put me as an MS2. Sucks because some of the cadre don't know me so they assume I should know a lot of this stuff. I didn't even know I had to say "sir" or "ma'am" to MS4s.
as cadet officers you're supposed to. I've told everyone in my group and the ones that I see on a regular basis not to call me sir.
it's also kinda fun to screw with the younger ones since they don't quite know what to do in a lot of situations. they're remodeling one of our buildings so it has a super long walkway(20 yards or so) that's technically outdoors. It's covered on three sides and I was holding the door open for the group of people following me. Everyone in the group had a "wtf do I do" look and since I was holding the door with my right hand I told em just to walk by and not worry about saluting. I'm not gonna be a dick and leave em without any guidance when they're obviously confused and then give them hell for doing the opposite of what I would have told them to do.
I'm an AS400 with a couple months to commission. I'm avoiding the cadre offices as much as possible because the new cadre member we got bugs the hell out of me. I have no problems with the other cadre and I have no concern about seeing them. I just don't wanna run up there to pay one of them a visit and end up having to shoot the breeze with him.
cadets saluting cadets and calling each other sir/ma'am is fucking stupid
and according to our new cadre member in order to make ROTC feel like a real AF wing everybody should be calling each other sir or ma'am... even if they are in the same class/rank/grade.
Apparently ROTC at my school is "like an Air Force club instead of like a real part of the AF". "It has AF seasoning but it doesn't have the full AF flavor." "We don't spend nearly as much time marching as we need to."(because marching happens so fucking much on active duty so in order to get everyone more proficient at marching we're cutting back on PT time to spend more time marching) "PT is a joke to some of you. You're giggling and laughing during circuit training."(the way that we've run circuit training is fucking dumb. there is little variation in exercise and most of the time you end up working the same muscle group 3-4 times in a row. So you reach muscle failure early on around rotation 3 so you don't get nearly enough out of it as you should) "At PT you should be drenched in sweat and working your butt off."(Every past Cadre member in his position has said that PT for us shouldn't be difficult because we should be working out enough on our own. Twice a week PT through ROTC is not enough to get in shape to pass the PFA.)
And my personal favorite, "I'm a hands off commandant of cadets. I'll only interrupt what you're doing if you are doing something dangerous to yourself, others or embarrassing the Air Force." Two days later the cadet running PT calls recover while she is standing at parade rest and or hands off COC wasting absolutely no time for one of the three cadet officers standing right next to her tells her that you can only call commands from the position of attention. What does hands off mean again?
Dude's also seemed to lose grasp of the difference between public and private. We were doing one GLP that's really meant more for the younger cadets and the last time we did it cadet officers participating didn't have to move at adjutant's pace and the reporting in procedure didn't apply. We did the same activity again this semester and he layed into me for doing the same things I did last time(not moving at adjutant's pace and not giving a damn about proper reporting procedure) right in front of another cadet.
Last leadership laboratory I was running late because I slept through my alarm and I was studying for a test until almost midnight the night before. I walk into where we are and he calls me to where he is. We're in a big ass area with the entire wing about 50 feet away. Nobody can hear what's being said but if they understand body language at all they know it isn't good. and he says, "Why were you late?" me, "No excuse."(even though I was studying the night before I still could have done something different so I'm not gonna use it as a crutch." him, "Cadet NEp8ntballer, you've been late on several occasions(according to the official US time I roll in right on time but they start two minutes early), you've been putting off tasks Capt snuffy has asked you to do, you're setting a bad example for the other cadets and these are traits that I don't want in a member of MY(he added the emphasis on that one) Air Force." me: "..." him, "Is there something going on that I need to know about?"(still in a confrontational tone) me(at this stage even if I did have a problem with something there's no way I'd be telling him about it.) no sir.
I don't think that he'd enjoy hearing that he is the reason that I hate coming to ROTC events because wherever he goes he sucks the fun out of it. Even shitty events we've been able to have some fun with them in the past but from the sound of things he likes it when things suck.
tell them that you will all be captains together and to shut the fuck up.....for starters its not the real air force so it can't be his air force......
I'll keep that in mind. I've noticed that there are some MS4s that don't really care at all if nobody salutes them and there are some that get really pissed off if they don't get saluted. What's really impressive is how everything is so organized. I'm surprised how the MS4s can manage all the lab exercises without needing any help from the cadre.
Do you want to be in the military?
It sucks, but sometimes we have superiors who are morons and you cant quit. Learn to adapt and overcome this douchebag.
This too shall pass...
Also, if you aren't early, you are late. Normally I would say 15 minutes, but I don't know your class schedule.
thats why I went to OTS, 12 weeks and done
i thought u were Special Forces?? ;/
my method of adapting is avoiding.
indeed, but I hate sitting around waiting for PT to start. I don't have a need to meet with anyone beforehand or anything to do in the time that I show up early so I see that time being early as being time wasted. Showing up at the office early wouldn't be a problem to me because I can spend that time being productive like checking e-mail, setting up a plan for the day, or making coffee... Feel free to laugh at that last one.
The only thing that I can do with showing up to PT or leadlab early is to BS with everybody until PT starts and to me that seems like a waste of time. I spend most of my day in our lounge area so I have plenty of time to shoot the breeze with them then. I'm not trying to come off as cocky but I'd consider myself to be the most approachable cadet officer we have. Cadets that aren't even in my flight will come up and ask me questions during the day that way they don't have to wait to hear back from their supervisor. I just wish they would have given me a position that would reflect that since our IG only shows up about once a month and leaves an hour before the rest of us are free to go. I made the joke that we should just get a cardboard cutout of her made so we'd see her more often and it would serve the same purpose.
and 18 credits wtf i never took more than 14 a sem, did that first year in undergrad after that it was 13...
I'm gonna have to take 18 every semester too. Mainly because I'm going for a nursing degree. I know someone else that had to because he switched majors and wanted to graduate on time.
that sucks, its really not a big deal but i never did rotc so can't comment on any kind of time commitments you spend on that (which clearly is a lot of time and effort). depends on the classes also though, i really didn't study much and got one a- in undergrad...graduated with a bs in biology.
minus whale straight up dump all that other crap. no one cares about your clubs, etc etc. if you don't drink as much as the other retarded college students (like me) you may have made up some of the time you spend on rotc stuff...plus you're more mature so you should be able to be more focused and manage your time better, your classmates are dumbasses who are 17 or 18 and are just discovering college whores, alcohol, and being able to do whatever they want with their time for the first time in their lives.
When I was in ROTC, they stressed joining clubs and getting involved anyway you can on campus. It adds points to your OML standing which is pretty important.